State sponsorship can include the state looking the other way.

spopejoy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not really? APTs would seem to be either criminal enterprises or state-sponsored because SOMEBODY has to be paying the big bucks.

So yes, probably 100% of criminal enterprises are paying off officials, but if that's the definition of "state sponsored" then the term loses any meaning.

EDIT I guess there's also "legit" businesses like Palantir/NSO group, but I would argue any firm like that is effectively state-sponsored as they are usually revolving doors with NSA-type agencies, the military etc.

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brookst 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So all attacks anywhere are state sponsored?

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oarsinsync 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> > State sponsorship can include the state looking the other way.

> So all attacks anywhere are state sponsored?

There's a difference between a deliberate decision to look away, and unawareness through lack of oversight.

You steal candy from a store. There's a difference between the security guard seeing you and deliberately looking away, compared to just not seeing you at all.

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