| ▲ | jwr 4 hours ago |
| Most importantly, it seems Cook doesn't love computers and doesn't use many (most?) of Apple products. It shows. Especially with Mac OS. |
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| ▲ | thordenmark 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| MacOs and iOs are going off the rails. It is clear the CEO is not providing a vision, not guiding the direction, and not assuring the quality of those products. While not as bad as Windows, which has way too many chefs in the kitchen, it is getting there. |
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| ▲ | FabHK 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sorry, are you suggesting that Cook doesn't use a computer in his day-to-day work, or has a Windows PC or Linux box in his office? Somehow I doubt that. (It's "macOS", BTW.) |
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| ▲ | dalant979 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Cook is on record in 2012 as using an iPad for 80% of his work, which mostly involves communication activities such as making decisions, responding to emails, and viewing documents. With how Apple has since then differentiated iPadOS and released accessories to make the iPad more laptop like, I'd guess that percentage has only increased. | | |
| ▲ | vasco 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The iPad was launched in 2010 and seen as a device to play around with - a big ipod. Two years later they were in the midst of the big push for using iPads for business, in hospitals, in cafes to replace PoS, in factories, etc. So you say the CEO of Apple uses it for work, if it's good enough for him it's good enough for you. I highly doubt he doesn't use an actual computer. |
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| ▲ | agumonkey 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I read it as "macOS is so full of issues that there's no way the CEO uses computers at all or he would have done something about it" |
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| ▲ | blackqueeriroh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cook reportedly uses all of Apple’s products, including the Mac: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276142/tim-cook-wsj-in... |
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| ▲ | zaphirplane 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Somehow I doubt he has is emails printed out and response by dictations ;) |
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| ▲ | Razengan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Does any CEO actually use their own company's products? The richest and most "powerful" people still have meat-based assistants do all their shit: Take their notes, check their calendars, make their appointments, toast their bread.. And it shows: This is how you get features like "Edge Light" and an Invites app before fixing basic functionality that the peasants rely upon. Like how we get the weird iOS Journal app even though Notes could have done all that if they had improved it a bit. Steve Jobs was probably one of the few people in charge who actually used his company's own products. You need someone who's annoyed with the status quo enough to make a company to solve it, not just someone elected by a board. |
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| ▲ | freediver 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Hm I live and breathe our product portfolio. That is the entire reason for me waking up for work every day. I do consider myself a 'product' CEO though and passion for great products is what keeps me in tech. | | | |
| ▲ | suresk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The opposite problem can happen- the CEO uses the product all the time and becomes blind to problems. “It has always worked that way”, or “who would want to do that!?”” are much more common than pure apathy. | | | |
| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's literally not true though??? I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually. | | |
| ▲ | Razengan 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I don't know how you even come to that kind of conclusion at all actually. Because most products, including iOS/macOS now, have glaring annoyances or shortcomings that have gone unfixed for a long time. If Tim Cook or even Craig Federighi etc. actually used iOS/macOS in their day to day lives, they would have run into those issues sooner or later and they'd be fixed in a day. (Hyperbole is a thing but the point stands) | | |
| ▲ | lacy_tinpot 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Does any CEO Plenty of CEOs do. The comment you replied to already questioned Tim Cook's usage of Apple products. Most Apple executives are probably using a Mac. Most engineers at Apple probably code on a Mac. Most engineers in the Bay already use Macs and have been using them for many years. | |
| ▲ | pear01 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Such a silly comment. Is your theory that everyone with any decision making authority at Apple doesn't actually use the product? Even when it comes to "glaring annoyances or shortcomings"? So odd of you to frame this as some sort of personal outrage. Like I'm so annoyed by this "glaring issue" on my device clearly the people working on this don't even use it or "it would be fixed in a day". Lol. Maybe people who actually have to get things done at a trillion dollar company don't have the same constraints as you, or relatedly, the luxury to obsess over your so-called glaring issues. |
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| ▲ | ivraatiems 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Does any CEO actually use their own company's products? ...yes? Quite often? I'm all for ragging on CEOs but this seems misguided. The CEO has been a user of the core product at every company I've ever worked for. If you think Tim Cook is pulling a Samsung Galaxy out of his pocket, I don't know what to tell you. | | |
| ▲ | curtisblaine 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > If you think Tim Cook is pulling a Samsung Galaxy out of his pocket, I don't know what to tell you. He should. He should literally be using competitors for real work, at least half of the time, deep in their ecosystem, to understand where Apple products need to improve. | |
| ▲ | wormius 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What's funny is I was doing online shopping from a national chain and got so frustrated by the UX that I gave up. I thought : If only the CEO would dogfood this instead of farming it out to their lackeys/gofers/personal assistants, etc... Instead these poor people deal with stuff like that (if they're doing online shit). "Privatize the profit, socialize the (pain in the ass enshittification, or whatever)." | | |
| ▲ | pear01 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Is this some parody of bad social critique? You know not every trope applies in all cases, right? A greedy CEO not using his own product doesn't readily apply the higher in the value chain you get. You replied to a comment mentioning how it's obviously silly to think Tim Cook uses a Samsung Galaxy. Yet it seems like maybe you missed the point... or do you also think decision makers at Apple are using Samsung Galaxy or Google Pixel phones? Or Windows surfaces or Dell laptops instead of MacBooks? Or maybe there is some designer bespoke OS or Ferrari level brand equivalent you are privy to that I'm missing? Or is your theory that he is so wealthy his use of personal butlers and subordinates ensures he never does any computing himself? He never sends a text or gets a personal phone call, or if he does some man-servant picks it up so he doesn't have to deal with the iOS interface that has been clearly designed for "poor people"? Then the ending comment that again can't seem to distinguish a generalized slogan re a broad social grievance with a specific claim or discussion. And the sense of personal victimization. Because something is annoying you, well clearly you are being taken advantage of. You didn't even contribute anything pertinent to the discussion except to complain about a wholly unrelated UX experience, only to limply tie it together by doing nothing more than conclude that obviously both CEOs are richer than you are. |
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| ▲ | conradfr an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Elon Musk uses X every other minutes and everybody wants him to stop. |
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