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IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs(codeberg.org)
148 points by nogajun 6 hours ago | 25 comments
giancarlostoro 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would love to see a project that rebuilds the Emacs UI but keeps the underlying core to give it a modern facelift, some things in emacs blend together and are a pain for my eyes to figure out whats what. It would be nice if the UI was modernized but the core was left as-is. I'm reminded of some of my favorite editors that are niche being Lisp related ones, where if you held down ctrl it would show you shortcuts in the UI itself and what they lead to. I also always enjoyed Racket's import arrows and other small things that are visually amazingly impressive despite being so simple.

pama 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You mean something like which-key? It existed for a long time as an external package and was added to main emacs recently. https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/commit/fa4203300fde682...

tiu an hour ago | parent [-]

Alternatively beside which-key, hydras exist which are very nice for certain contexts (dired in the particular case for me) and provide a nice shortcut interface whenever activated. Demo at [0].

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZliI1BKzI

jasperry 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a long-time Emacs user, I'm surprised by how easy it has become lately to configure Emacs as an IDE, mainly due to the built-in eglot. You need a lot less elisp code than you used to. A working Python setup is like one line of config.

Which is to say, this project isn't really for me, because I'm already familiar with Emacs keybindings. And as for a new user, they're going to eventually have to deal with the underlying configuration. Maybe it's a gateway drug?

tiffanyh 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was always bummed OniVim v2 didn't take off.

It was a native IDE but fully supported VS Code plugin system.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210627210456/https://v2.onivim...

arbitrandomuser an hour ago | parent [-]

onivim also seperated the core functionality of the vim editor into a seperate library libvim , this would have been great for other people looking to make their own gui frontend to vim .

neovim does not give a libneovim, but exposes an rpc where you communicate with neovim running as another process, this I would have thought have more latency but apparently is fast enough , this is how the vscode plugin for neovim is able to provide a near complete vim experience. Other neovim guis like neovide use this too

ruguo 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you don’t use it that often, you might wanna try the Emacs plugin for VS Code instead.

trenchpilgrim 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This would have been great when I was learning Lisp in school! I tried emacs but due to joint issues the keybinds were painful to use, so I gave up and did the course in vim+SBCL's REPL instead.

dmead 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Which joint issues? Have you tried evil mode?

trenchpilgrim 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Which joint issues?

Pretty sure it's rheumatoid arthritis.

> Have you tried evil mode?

This was like fifteen years ago and I just went back to my working Vim setup I was already using for all my other classes.

pca006132 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What I miss from vscode is the remote functionality, can you do it with emacs? For neovim there is distant.nvim, but idk if it is mature enough and configuration seems a bit annoying...

blubber 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

What kind of remote functionality? Lately, somebody mentioned https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/tunnels

brendyn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Emacs already does that with TRAMP via SSH -- You just open a file like /ssh:user@server:/etc/hosts the main downside is if your connection is laggy Emacs will lock up momentarily. There is an ongoing effort to improve the multithreaded-ness and async-ness of Emacs to make it nicer

hirvi74 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is TRAMP.

https://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/

I am not sure if it will fit your needs or not.

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I believe the analogous thing in emacs is called TRAMP. I have no idea if it's good, as I never edit files remotely, but it exists.

bitwize an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't see a point to this beyond hack value. Turning Emacs into a shitty version of an inferior editor is kind of a waste. If you really want Visual Studio Code, just use Visual Studio Code.

pizlonator 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That screenshot is super pretty. Very impressive!

tom_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

C-x, C-c, C-w, C-s, C-k, C-g, C-] - goodness me, somebody absolutely does not give a shit what anybody thinks. I would never use this, but, somehow, I still love it.

I dare the author to rebind M-x as well.

skullt 3 hours ago | parent [-]

In fairness, Emacs has long had cua-mode for rebinding C-c, C-v, C-x, and C-z to copy, paste, cut, and undo, so at least those changes are not too radical.

charcircuit 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would really like to see this kind of work be done upstream. Emacs still looks the same as it did decades ago despite other editors advancing and becoming more user friendly.

ssivark 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Switching the default experience away from what people have grown used to over decades seems incredibly rude (despite what commercial software has normalized).

The magic of emacs is infinite customizability. And it's quite easy for users to find and start with emacs "distributions" or "starter packs". So that's probably the best route forward.

Potential improvements:

1 Base emacs continues to make it easier to try out a bunch of configurations and switch between them, obviating solutions like chemacs

2 There's a web repository of a a variety of starter packs with screenshots and reviews and installation instructions, to help beginners find everything in one place.

3 ...

raincole 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm afraid that many people consider "looking the same as decades ago" a feature...

manithree 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please, no. Emacs could use some interface/toolkit update, I don't deny that. And I like IDE features. I use tree-sitter, LSPs, copilot.el, copilot-chat.el, and others all day, every day.

But don't force me to turn off treemacs, and minimap like I have to do in VSCode all the time just because some useless, space-wasting eye-candy is trendy.

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A huge portion of the emacs community seems resistant to any UI improvement. I think it's a counterculture thing.

komali2 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's because a lot of us resist the implicit argument that UI changes are automatically improvement when in fact it's just as often regression.