What a distasteful and devious project.

d-us-vb 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If a new technology is directly or indirectly involved in people's deaths, we can't just ignore the problems. Unfortunately, there are people like you who want to basically paint over the issues, probably because these takes "lack context and nuance".

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jstummbillig 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The issue I take is not criticism of LLMs. It is the lack thereof, and presenting it as such.

If you find ~30 reported deaths among 500 million users problematic to begin with, you are simply out of touch with reality. If you then put effort behind promoting this as a problem, that's not an issue of "lack of context and nuance" (what's with the quotes? Who are you quoting?). I called it what it is to me: Distasteful and devious.

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GaryBluto 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> probably because these takes "lack context and nuance".

How anti-intellectual of you.

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d-us-vb 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, I'm definitely anti-pseudo-intellectual. Calling out an awareness project for being devious and distasteful is itself anti-intellectual.

The nuance here is that LLMs seem to exacerbate depression. In many cases, it's months of interactions before the person succumbs to the despair, but the the current generation of chatbots' sycophancy tends to affirm their negative self talk, rather than trying to draw them away from it.

	▲	GaryBluto 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Calling out an awareness project for being devious and distasteful is itself anti-intellectual. Read that again. Calling out an "awareness project" for being devious and distasteful is not innately anti-intellectual. Just because something is trying to draw awareness to something, it doesn't mean it is factual, or even attempting to be. > The nuance here is that LLMs seem to exacerbate depression. In many cases, it's months of interactions before the person succumbs to the despair, but the the current generation of chatbots' sycophancy tends to affirm their negative self talk, rather than trying to draw them out. Mirroring the user's most prominent attitude is what it's designed to do. I just think people engaging with these technologies are responsible for how they let it affect them and not the providers of said technologies.

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DonaldPShimoda 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Oh no, people are finding links between an unregulated technology and potential real-world harms, how awful."

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ipsum2 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Don't make up quotes and put words in other people's mouths. Own your words.

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GaryBluto 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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