They released a bunch of emails this week. We can stop tiptoeing saying that "The president was connected to Epstein, a notorious sexual predator" - with the evidence from the emails we can upgrade it to the much more direct fact "President Trump is a pedophile who liked to rape little girls"

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gruez 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>with the evidence from the emails we can upgrade it to the much more direct fact "President Trump is a pedophile who liked to rape little girls"

A bunch of vaguely worded emails is enough to summarily conclude that someone is a criminal? I'm glad you're not a judge.

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lostlogin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The convicted criminal hasn’t been convicted of that particular crime yet. Innocent until proven guilty again.

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hobs 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And pictures and letters and cohabitation and friendship and mutual business arrangements and the list goes on. The court of public opinion is not an actual court.

	▲	gruez 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>And pictures and letters and cohabitation and friendship and mutual business arrangements and the list goes on At best that proves he's affiliated/associated with a convicted pedophile. Going from that to "we can upgrade it to the much more direct fact "President Trump is a pedophile who liked to rape little girls" is a massive leap. There's plenty of other famous people who turned out to be sexual offenders, but we don't go around accusing their entire circle of being "pedophile who liked to rape little girls". >The court of public opinion is not an actual court. Good. The court of public opinion has shown itself to be massively partisan. People's evidentiary standards change on a whim depending on how much they previously like/hate the person. By invoking the "court of public opinion" excuse, you're basically admitting that there's weak evidence for the allegations, so you need a lower bar to "convict" someone.

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e2le 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At the very least it demonstrates that he has lied about his connection to Epstein and that Maxwell is also similarly lying.