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EMIRELADERO 5 hours ago

This is misleading though. There is simply no other choice if you want to use mainstream apps. It could be argued (successfully in my view) that any agreement is null and void due to its acceptance under duress.

Users have an inherent legal right to unconditionally access the full advertised functionality of devices they purchase. Any agreement after that is inherently suspect and I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was ruled unconscionable by some court if it came to that.

makeitdouble 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> This is misleading though.

This isn't misleading in any way. It's unfortunate and we should be pissed about it, but this is exactly the legal arrangement that Google and Apple came up with.

> I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was ruled unconscionable by some court

Last US court battle, Apple told the court it needed the money from the kids casino to keep its profits, and the court just nodded.

Apple had to be held in comptempt of a court order after 4 years and a deluge of evidence, for us to see any significant move.

edoceo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree it's not awesome, or even good. Unfortunately, it's what we've got today. A fact HN seems to dislike.