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culi 7 hours ago

I haven't gamed in almost a decade but what an exciting time to be alive as a PC gamer:

- almost every classic console is easy to emulate

- most modern consoles are, less-legally, emulatable

- we have thorough archives of Flash games and ofc almost all non-flash web games are still functioning

- cross compatibility across OS's has never been better

And, best of all, almost all of this is achievable on Linux! You can also plug in almost any controller, VR headset, or monitor/projector. Remote gaming has also made incredible progress allowing gamers to access their expansive libraries while not even at home.

In fact, I can't think of a single thing a console can do that a PC can't

musicale 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> In fact, I can't think of a single thing a console can do that a PC can't

Play current Nintendo game cards (and run the eShop etc.) without headaches or workarounds of dubious legality?

Run your whole PSN library reliably, without headaches or workarounds?

Full game system (with decent 4K in the case of PS5) for the price of a GPU?

Work out of the box without messing with it?

agoodusername63 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> - most modern consoles are, less-legally, emulatable

wheres the PS4 or like, any xbox emulator?

It's just Nintendo that has modern, usable emulators for most of the games you'd want to play. xbox never got lucky for basically any of their consoles and Sony never got anything usable after PS3.

MegaDeKay 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> wheres the PS4

- early days, but ShadPS4

> any xbox emulator

- OG XBox: xemu

- XBox 360: xenia

- XBox 1: early days but WinDurango and XWine1

agoodusername63 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

none of these consoles are "usable"

I'm pretty into emulation. It's very misleading to claim that "modern consoles are emulatable" when no, only nintendo has emulators you can boot up, pick from a very large list of compatible games, and have a consistent experience that any sane person would want out of these.

Sony disappears after PS3 and xbox... well I guess xemu is Fine, but you're going to play for an hour and then come to the conclusion that you're better off hooking up the old console

entropicdrifter 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Xenia's usable these days. Worse than RPCS3, but usable

tapoxi 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Early days? Those consoles shipped 12 years ago.

culi 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was gonna correct you and then I realized 2013 was indeed 12 years ago.

I guess in my original comment when I said "modern" I just mean not the classics. Other than the latest Xbox and Playstation models, emulators for those lineages are quite mature. Even the Nintendo Switch (2017) has multiple really great emulators.

The point is it's easier to list out which consoles don't have emulators than it is to list out consoles that do. Other than nintendo, there are pretty few console-exclusive games nowadays

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fwipsy 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Consoles are just loss leaders for software now. Hot take: this is true of the Steam Deck and Machine as well. Yes you can play games from other vendors, but PC gamers are very loyal to Steam and many will never bother. I imagine at least half of steam deck users just use it like a console, not like a PC.

csullivannet 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't see a reason not to be loyal to Steam. I probably spend just as much if not more than console gamers but in return I get so much more value.

culi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It's pretty good as a consumer but they take a massive cut out for developers. I'm not crying about EA not getting its profit margins, but the cut Steam takes can really hurt indie devs.

I try to buy from itch.io whenever its an option.

jsheard 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I'm not crying about EA not getting its profit margins, but the cut Steam takes can really hurt indie devs.

Indies actually lose more of their margin than EA does, because Steam reduces their 30% cut to 25% after $10m in sales and 20% after $50m in sales. Few indies are doing those numbers, so it's functionally a discount for AAA publishers to discourage them from leaving for their own launchers again (EA did leave back when it was a flat 30% rate for everyone).

akimbostrawman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It is a large cut but they also offer much more features than any other store not to mention exposure.

aussieguy1234 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess to get their stores on the platform, Epic Games etc will need to create officially supported Linux stores.

entropicdrifter 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Or endorse Heroic, which works better than their launcher anyhow, even on Windows

m463 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Consoles are just loss leaders for software now.

Maybe software is just a link in the chain to subscriptions.

tmtvl 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> almost every classic console is easy to emulate

Yes, but unless you have a library from back in the day classic console games are hard to find and/or expensive. Try finding a copy of Biker Mice From Mars, for example.

amypetrik8 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> almost every classic console is easy to emulate

>Yes, but unless you have a library from back in the day classic >console games are hard to find and/or expensive. Try finding a >copy of Biker Mice From Mars, for example.

Anon, I... ..... I am sorry to be the first one to tell you this... but you don't need to buy a copy of Biker Mice from Mars off eBay for 9 gorillion dollars. You can download every SNES game ever made in the history of ever for zero dollars. Then autists have reprogrammed FPGAs so you can run the ROM on exact circuitry powering a CRT to have an essentially 99.999999% identical experience

culi 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My friend,

https://www.google.com/search?q=Biker+Mice+From+Mars+rom