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haunter 11 hours ago

8GB VRAM + 4K + FSR3 is very tough situation. Basically bit better than an Xbox Series S but quickly outpaced by midrange PCs.

It will all come down to the price.

mmis1000 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They said they route vram/rams though the io die in the gamer nexus's video. Wondering if that means GPU will also have direct access to ram. So it will not actually be a very big problem? Probably slower, but not terribly swapping like those 8gb gpu.

paxys 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah non-upgradable 8GB VRAM would make it a no-go for all but the most casual gamers. But then the casual gamers would rather buy a PS5 for the same price, so let's see where this one fits in.

MBCook 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They already own the PC market. This seems more like a play to start to introduce Steam towards more of the console market.

And for that, assuming a reasonable price, it looks like a nice attempt. Certainly much better than last time.

whynotminot 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The size here is actually important too. I think the PS5 is monstrously large and ugly. I do not want it in my living room.

If this little box is roughly PS5 power and reasonably priced (we shall see) then that might hit just right.

Jnr 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a Steam Deck owner since pre-orders, unless the price is extremely high, I am going to get the Steam Machine as well. Kids plug the Steam Deck to TV to do couch co-op gaming even though the resolution is only 720p. So getting a better resolution and performance while still getting access to the huge Steam library and non-steam games (Minecraft, etc.) is worth it. I don't care about the latest AAA titles and FPS shooters, for those I already have a desktop PC.

PS5 is too expensive long term and is not usable for anything else. And when Steam Machine becomes obsolete, I'll probably just use it/gift it as a mini pc/home-server to someone in the family.

haunter 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah it's confirmed solderd and not-upgradable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUxObt1efQ&t=591s

SchemaLoad 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quite a lot of actual casual games, things you'd see in the indie or "cosy"/stardew valley-like genre only release on PC, or they take years to come to the Switch but nothing else. I see a lot of casual gamers getting the Steam Deck just because it's has the best selection of casual games.

For casual games even the steam deck can run most of them at 4k 60fps

Kirby64 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's essentially an RX 7600, roughly. It's not quite 'the most casual gamer', but it isn't super amazing. But... neither is the steam deck, and steam deck flies off the shelves.

energy123 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The performance has little to do with the amount of VRAM. The VRAM is just a cap on texture resolution.