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viraptor 12 hours ago

What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link, downloads are still bottlenecked by the drives. And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally.

daveoc64 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC.

I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.

risho 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

there is almost no one who has multigigabit internet and even for people that do, you spend significantly less than 1 percent of your time on that device downloading. its a complete non issue. this device is a midrange at best pc, so having a gigabit connection is exactly where it should be. if you want to have the best of the best build a pc.

fractalcounty 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That's an exaggeration. Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US and Europe and mid-range motherboards have included 2.5 GbE for years now and the NICs themselves are dirt cheap. I don't think it's irrational to be disappointed.

shadowpho 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

>Affordable multi-gigabit fiber is widely available in plenty of metropolitan areas in the US

Press X to doubt, isn’t a large part of country under Comcast (aka crappy monopolistic cable)?

pseudosavant 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A USB 2.5Gb adapter costs $15 on Amazon.

viraptor 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So you can theoretically download an AAA title like the new kingdom come at 84GB in just under 5 minutes instead of 11 min. That's cool and all, but does it actually matter? I mean, with games of those sizes you're going to spend hundreds of hours in the game most likely. It's an extremely first world problem that takes minutes, maybe once a month.

fractalcounty 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's more so the fact that 2.5 GbE NICs are really cheap and already fairly common in consumer devices. And game downloads aren't the only use case, file transfers could benefit from the extra headroom

TheCoreh 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Games are super large nowadays. IIRC Steam uses P2P for the update downloads, so you should be able to saturate whatever link you have, and the SSD should be substantially faster than 1Gbps. So anyone that has a > 1Gbps internet connection should benefit from something higher than Gigabit.

ericd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How are downloads bottlenecked by drives? A normal nvme drive does >20 gbit.

embedding-shape 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally

Are you talking "4k streaming" as the current streaming providers do it, with trash bitrate, or "4k streaming" as you would do it if you had ripped your own blu-ray disks and you want to stream it from a NAS somewhere else in your house to your living room?

shdjhdfh 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The highest bitrate UHD Blu-ray supports is 144mbit/s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray. A one gigabit NIC is not even close to the biggest compromise on this system.

pvillano 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"the average bitrate for a 4K Blu-ray DVD can range between 48Mbps to 75Mbps. Some discs can also carry around 100Mbps or even 128Mbps, but these are more rare."

https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-here...

viraptor 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The extreme high quality blurays are going up to 144Mbps or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray Still nowhere near a gigabit.

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Jnr 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Even on the high seas the large Blu-ray releases require only about 40-50Mbit, maybe you can get even larger releases (requiring ~100Mbit for streaming) but then a single movie would take up 100GB+ of space and it is such an overkill, no one really needs it.