Alex2037 16 hours ago

>But conversations people thought they were having with OpenAI in private

...had never been private in the first place.

not only is the data used for refining the models, OpenAI had also shariah policed plenty of people for generating erotica.

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Workaccount2 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is about private chats, which are not used for training and only stored for 30 days.

Also, you need to understand, that for huge corps like OpenAI, the lying on your ToS will do orders of magnitude more damage to your brand than what you would gain through training on <1% more user chats. So no, they are not lying when they say they don't train on private chats.

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bonsai_spool 14 hours ago | parent [-]

> Also, you need to understand, that for huge corps like OpenAI, the lying on your ToS will do orders of magnitude more damage to your brand than what you would gain

Is this true? I can’t recall anything like this (look at Ashley Madison which is alive and well)

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bee_rider 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it is hard to say because OpenAI is still heavily in development and working out their business model (and a reasonable complaint is that it is crazy to label them a massive success without seeing how they actually work when they need to make a profit).

But, all that aside, it seems that OpenAI is aiming to be bigger and more integrated into the day-to-day life of the average person than Ashley Madison, right?

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Workaccount2 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not national news when a company is found to be doing what they say they are doing.

	▲	bonsai_spool 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> It's not national news when a company is found to be doing what they say they are doing. You said there would be ‘orders of magnitude’ of brand damage. What is the proof?

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mock-possum 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah I don’t get why more people don’t understand this - why would you think your conversation was private when it wasnt actually private. Have you not been paying attention.

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IlikeKitties 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> OpenAI had also shariah policed plenty of people for generating erotica.

That framing is retorically brilliant if you think about it. I will use that more. Chat Sharia Law for Chat Control. Mass Sharia Surveillance from flock etc.