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| ▲ | tgv 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't see how ad-blocking is unethical. There are companies that make money by placing ("out of home") ads in the public space. Not looking at those would then also be unethical? Priests sermoning on "thou shalt not hide thy eyes from the fancy displays in the bus stop"? An ad-police, the Conscious Ethical Viewing Effort Force Edict? That's some low-key dystopian thought. | | |
| ▲ | sodality2 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would be like attending a time-share dinner and putting in earplugs during their speech. I definitely think it's permissible to do it, but it's also permissible for them to kick you out for doing it. | | |
| ▲ | engeljohnb 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's more like tearing out the ad pages of a magazine before reading it. Even if the magazine has fine print saying "the reader may not tear out the ad pages..." It's still a ridiculous rule and it isn't wrong for people to ignore it. | | |
| ▲ | bitpush 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | The right analogy would be a newspaper delivering you the paper in ~milliseconds when you ask for it, whereever in the world, for free, and then you proceed to rip off the ads and read it. The reason newspaper do the delivery was the promise that you'll see the ads, and they get to make money from that ads. If they notice that you do all of the work of providing you the newspaper almost instantly and you dont see the ads, they are either gonna have to a) politely refuse to serve you b) point you to an alternate way of accessing the newspaper ("Newspaper Premium" for $$) | | |
| ▲ | engeljohnb 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Firstly, ad watch time is not currency. Second once the paper's in my hands, I get to do what I want with it, and the expectations of the paper company has no bearing on it. If they don't want to give me the paper for free, they should stop, but they haven't yet. Their expectation to make a certain amount of revenue from ads doesn't obligate the consumer. If their business model isn't making them the profit they need, it's on them to change their strategy. | | |
| ▲ | bitpush 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Second once the paper's in my hands, I get to do what I want with it, and the expectations of the paper company has no bearing on it. Absolutely! I run an adblocker as well! At the same time, you'd agree they have the right to refuse to serve you (access denied) or make you jump through hoops (solve a challenge etc) | | |
| ▲ | engeljohnb 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure. YouTube can put everything behind a paywall one day and I won't complain. But I reject the increasingly common belief that it's somehow wrong to block ads. | | |
| ▲ | bitpush 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | Again, not wrong to block ads. But they can make it very difficult to have you and I access to videos if we're running adblocker. We're right, and they're right as well. |
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