Then none of these documents are worth the paper upon which they are printed, and the advice has provable negative value?

Do tell.

https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-re...

Yes, the advice is entirely wrong. ICE have been kidnapping and detaining people who had proof of citizenship on their body at the time.

Anyone likely to be targeted by these thugs needs to be talking to local activist groups that know exactly what's happening first hand.

Offering armchair views that are clearly from a position of ignorance is yes, provable negative value.

Please just don't.

Edit: talked with a friend who's doing some activist work on this in his area. The advice is actually to avoid carrying your passport or similar, as if they detain you they'll just throw it away along with the rest of your belongings, and you'll have to go through the weeks long process of getting a new one.

And that's the happy case if they throw you in the van and let you out hours or a couple days later.

your documents will only help you in court. ICE does not care at all, and they do not care about due process or your constitutional rights. Just hope they don't ship you off to South Sudan before your relatives can get your citizenship documents if you happen to be a brown person.

hola amigos, ca habla un americano el citizeno --- que? no hablo ingles.

The DHS and ICE just randomly changed rules to this articles "expedited" process, officially declared that no paper documents count - only their homebrew app, and are now engaging mass raids without evidence or warrants that cause damage to people and their property with no means of reconciliation; this includes targeting home-born American citizens.

This article is explicitly reactive and says so itself! None of these documents mean just about anything anymore - yesterday it was A, today it is B, tomorrow it is C. The rule of law has broken down in America.

We've seen an entire national campaign about a man deported to a prison in a country he was being protected from. The administration has been caught with numerous citizens now. While arguing they have no requirement of due process and have a right to deport anyone anywhere they please.

There's not negative value, you should still do it and hope there's still someone to stop them somewhere in the process. But believing this is simply a matter of "getting your papers in order" or explaining how "this is a bad idea" to them is nuts... as if the Nazis ever cared about the papers. If a Nazi official wanted you gone, you were gone. That's how fascism works.

And before I hear anyone say "oh, please, Nazis, don't be irrational", Greg Bovino is effectively the commander-at-large of CBP. Today he did a Nazi salute in front of a crowd of people.

And that's what America is, just 10 months in. An authoritarian police state with a Gestapo that's rapidly escalating. With no one left to stop them, it seems, what with local LEO and the NG and SCOTUS and Congress all being in on the game.