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doganugurlu 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OP mentions US citizens being detained. Commenter is wondering how other US citizens supporting such activities would feel if their family was detained similarly.

Unless you’re talking about citizens of another country that are in favor of these deportations, your comment is plainly illogical.

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lurk2 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> OP mentions US citizens being detained.

The comment I replied to did not mention US citizens being detained. He asked:

> I wonder how different the HN overlords would feel if their own families were being torn apart.

The great-grandparent comment by tedivm brings this up, though tedivm uses the word "abducted" - this could technically cover an illegal detention (which it seems like there have been at least a few), but the common use of the word would imply that US citizens were getting kidnapped and physically removed to another location without release. The number of times this has happened has not been 0, but in terms of documented instances, you're not talking about a very large group of people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_...

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nobody9999 12 hours ago | parent [-]

>The number of times this has happened has not been 0, but in terms of documented instances, you're not talking about a very large group of people.

"you're not talking about a very large group of people"? Does that make it acceptable? If so, what's the upper limit on an acceptable number of citizens being disappeared?

That's not a rhetorical question.

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lurk2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> If so, what's the upper limit on an acceptable number of citizens being disappeared?

I didn’t articulate that properly. There have probably been a non-zero number of illegal detentions, and a few instances (only about a dozen that I’m aware of, most of those preceding the present administration) where citizens have been deported. The ideal number of times either of these things would happen is 0, but there’s no evidence that it’s a systemic problem that would necessitate abolishing immigration enforcement entirely.

	▲	doganugurlu 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ok. Thanks for clarifying that in your view it’s worth deporting a few citizens to a prison in another country so that we can deport folks at Home Depot parking lots etc.

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UncleMeat 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My aunt is a republican lobbyist. She is also a drunk. This means that she gets drunk and texts the family things all of the time.

She wants everybody in US cities to suffer. Illegal immigrant, legal immigrant, or citizen. She thinks that people who live in places like Chicago are snooty woke idiots and that it'd be better if cops hit every single person there with a nightstick and took them away from their kids.

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lurk2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

This has nothing to do with my comment.

	▲	UncleMeat 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I do not believe that republicans are motivated by animus against illegal immigrants but instead by animus against a much wider group of people.