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roxolotl a day ago

Did you read the article? Not wanting to visit countries where secret police are rounding people up, regardless of citizenship, seems like a reasonable opinion.

khannn a day ago | parent | next [-]

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roxolotl a day ago | parent [-]

Some of the allegations around the Canadian assisted suicides are absolutely indefensible and heinous but a tourist isn’t likely to encounter it.

Even if you support the actions by the Trump administration, honestly especially so given the assertion is the cities are dangerous, it seems reasonable as a tourist to want to avoid countries, like the US, where there are active operations by military and paramilitary forces.

EDIT to increase clarity.

kasey_junk a day ago | parent [-]

ICE agents took people from normal activities (ie not protests) from Grant park (the park in downtown with the famous bean sculpture tourists go to) recently.

They are snatching people all over the city without warrants. I would not say tourists are unlikely to encounter their operations.

khannn a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not glazing ICE by any means, but we have to be real here: the vast majority of people that are being picked up are in violation of immigration law and no amount of "No warrant" is going to change people's mind.

The majority of illegal immigration in my location are people overstaying their student visas and they're getting sent back. Saw a former co-worker's wife was sent back, no I didn't snitch, but I don't feel sorry for someone who overstayed a student visa then worked under the table for a decade.

roxolotl a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yea totally agree. The comment I was responding to was clapping back about allegations of homeless individuals being pushed into assisted suicides in Canada. That’s what I meant would be unlikely to be encountered. I’ve updated my comment to make it more clear.

themafia a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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don_neufeld a day ago | parent | next [-]

Chicago has over 50 millions tourists per year and rising.

https://cdn.choosechicago.com/uploads/2025/07/Chicago-Touris...

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-sees-record-breaking-ho...

Is that a lot?

Well, Rome - which people the world over would consider a “tourist destination” only has 35M tourists per year.

https://hotelagio.com/rome-tourism-statistics/

Even Paris is less, around 47M

https://parisplaybook.com/paris-tourism-statistics/

themafia a day ago | parent [-]

Those are overall visitations. There's no indication that they're vacationing or tourists. Does Chicago have more global business interests than Rome?

My Mother went to Chicago every year for Emergency Room training. Was she a tourist? Or was she there because Chicago, for all it's problems, has one of the most competent and practiced set of ER doctors in the entire country?

don_neufeld 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“Does Chicago have more global business interests than Rome?”

Given that the GDP of the Chicago area is ~5x the GDP of Rome, I suspect the answer is YES!

Chicago: ~900B USD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area

Rome: ~190B USD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_metropolitan_area

If you were to take exports as a good proxy for “global business interests”, then the USTR would show you that Chicago exports 57.9B in goods, making Chicago’s exports almost 1/3 of Rome’s entire GDP.

https://ustr.gov/map/state-benefits/il

arianvanp 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Does it really matter? Both tourism and business fall under the same ESTA Visa Waiver programme. In both cases you have people visiting without any visa but just an online application at cpb. I dont even think they stamp passports anymore during entry in the US. It's all digital now.

testing22321 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, the US is a country of immigrants. Built by people from all over the world.

There’s even a massive statue near some famous city welcoming immigrants.

Are you so xenophobic you missed this?

themafia a day ago | parent [-]

Are you so enamored with a statue that you missed the overwhelming gang violence? Stop being simple and looking for opportunities to push your narrow politics into a conversation.

Chicago is simply _not_ in good shape. Ask anyone who lives there. Ask them if these problems started with or predated Trump? Ask them if they think their problems has one wit to do with national politics.

testing22321 a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, many places have problems with gang violence.

That has nothing at all to do with secret masked police ignoring the constitution and people getting abducted regardless of citizenship.