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vlovich123 a day ago

Then explain that const isn’t deep and a const container can end up mutating state? Pretending like c++ has a consistent philosophy is amusing and pretending this happened because of pedagogy is amusing. It happened because in c assignment is a copy and c++ inherited this regardless of how dumb it is as a default for containers.

kccqzy a day ago | parent [-]

In C++ regular types have the property that const is deep. If you have a const std::vector<int> the you can't modify any of the integers contained in this container. Naturally for flexibility reasons not all types are regular, pointers being the prominent exception, and things like std::string_view being modern examples of non-regular types.

vlovich123 a day ago | parent [-]

I feel like you could benefit from watching Scott Meyers about the silliness in C++ if you feel like there’s a consistent and logical feel to the language. A lot of this is c++-isms masquerading sensible ideas through official terms (regular and non-regular types)

kccqzy 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh I certainly do not feel like there's consistency in the language. The C++ language is such that everyone picks a subset that makes sense to them and is relatively consistent.

Regular and non-regular types are however a basic idea that transcends languages. I can write a snippet in Python too:

    import copy
    from some.random.module.on.pypi import foo
    a = foo()
    b = copy.copy(a)
    assert a == b
If that assertion fails it implies the type isn't regular.