> Isn't the extreme position that a country should be able to control what you do even when you're willingly choosing to do it in another jurisdiction?

Well, which jurisdiction applies to Spanish Internet users in Spain and Spanish ISPs?

Doesn't the US claim global tax jurisdiction on its nationals?

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AnthonyMouse 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Well, which jurisdiction applies to Spanish Internet users in Spain and Spanish ISPs?

The Spanish Internet users are attempting to leave the jurisdiction and come back with only information. The ISPs are the equivalent of train operators. How is prohibiting them from taking you to the border not an attempt to prevent you from doing something in another jurisdiction which is legal there?

> Doesn't the US claim global tax jurisdiction on its nationals?

It's one of the most astounding and outrageous things the US does and it ought to stop immediately, not least because people keep citing it as precedent to justify other bad choices.

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ben_w 3 days ago | parent [-]

> The Spanish Internet users are attempting to leave the jurisdiction and come back with only information. The ISPs are the equivalent of train operators. How is prohibiting them from taking you to the border not an attempt to prevent you from doing something in another jurisdiction which is legal there?

For that analogy to hold, I would need something equivalent to a US visa to post this comment that you are currently reading.

	▲	AnthonyMouse 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> For that analogy to hold, I would need something equivalent to a US visa to post this comment that you are currently reading. Only if the US required it. A country you're not a citizen of preventing you from coming in isn't the same thing as a country you are a citizen of preventing you from leaving. Consider it like this: Suppose you're in Europe and you want to communicate with someone in the US. You could do it in person by you going there, or by them coming to you, or both of you going to some third place to meet. Your country could prevent them from coming to you but not either of the other ones, and you can communicate with them if you can do any of the three. The internet only makes it more efficient.