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Tesla shareholders approve $1T pay package for Elon Musk(nbcnews.com)
22 points by yoyohello13 11 hours ago | 10 comments
duxup 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This all feels like a sort of suicide pact.

If they don't give Elon massive amounts of cash, then he maybe walks and they pick someone new as CEO and Tesla stock might start getting evaluated like any other stock ... the would result in a pretty sharp downward trend.

Keep Elon and the aspirational (that's the word I picked) stock price maybe holds?

Reubend 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Before the outrage comments pour in, take a look at the conditions he has to meet (per the New York Times):

> ...this 12-step package asks Mr. Musk, the company’s chief executive, to vastly expand Tesla’s stock market valuation — to $8.5 trillion from around $1.4 trillion — while hitting a variety of other goals. Those include selling one million robots with humanlike qualities and 10 million paid subscriptions to the company’s self-driving software.

The headline $1 trillion figure only comes into play if he hits a very lofty goal: 6x the company's valuation and sell a bunch of expensive robots.

I don't think this is nearly as crazy as people are making it seem. It's a huge reward for a goal that seems unlikely to be achievable in a short time frame.

basiccalendar74 10 hours ago | parent [-]

A large cap stock increasing by 6x is not "unlikely to be achievable".

Apple went from 1T to 4T valuation in just 6 years. why did Apple not award 500 billion to Tim Cook for this achievement?

m463 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the thing is that tesla is tanking, but apple has more diversity and a modicum of success / growth.

atonse 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My problem with all this is that Tesla depends too much on one person, Musk.

I shudder to think about what would happen to the stock valuation if he were somehow not able to perform his duties anymore.

That’s why it just feels precarious. I don’t know any other stock that has a bus number of 1.

Maybe Berkshire Hathaway?

Apart from that, the goals/milestones are so huge that the pay package doesn’t seem too crazy.

TheAlchemist 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Berkshire is a money making machine with or without Buffett. Its market cap is 30% lower than Tesla, while it brings ~100B / year in net income - most of which is from very stable, boring businesses.

As Warren liked to say: "I try to invest in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will".

That's his portfolio now - he won't promise robots or AI, but he can guarantee solid profits for 10 years to come, regardless of his presence.

atonse 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Damn I didn’t need more reasons to admire Buffett than after reading that quote hehe.

ghtbircshotbe 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Berkshire has many talented managers and I believe is known for being fairly hands off. If anything Berkshire is undervalued compared to the industry averages for its component companies.

richardatlarge 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Money can't buy happiness. This will be history's most expensive case study.

ChrisArchitect 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45841026