| ▲ | carodgers 15 hours ago |
| Imagine being so sure of your right to rule over other humans that you make a school illegal. |
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| ▲ | randycupertino 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think it's more that he disregarded residential zoning and opened a school for 30 kids, with a full docket of “residential support staff” including “childcare, culinary, personal assistants, property management, and security" without any permits. If your next door neighbor opened a 30+ person school or other large business next to your property without any permits and against what your neighborhood was zoned for you might not be happy. |
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| ▲ | bnchrch 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Zoning on average is a blight. Industrial / High Rise is the only thing that should need permitting. Fourplex / Duplex / Single Family / Small Offices / Schools should not. | | |
| ▲ | mschuster91 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Schools, kindergartens and daycares cause a shitload of noise from the children playing and the traffic. Small offices also induce lots of traffic, and small merchants even more. You do not want to have that outside of zoning control because that is how you end up with a road designed to handle the need of a dozen homes (i.e. 24-30 cars a day) suddenly dealing with ten times that load - not just because of noise, smell and traffic jams but especially because road surfacing quality is usually "the cheapest you can get away with for the expected load", the road will go bad way faster than expected. Zoning is not your enemy, zoning is your friend. Particularly if you value peace and roads you can drive on. |
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| ▲ | exe34 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nobody made a school illegal. Schools have to meet certain standards, whether educational or planning. |
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| ▲ | potato3732842 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What a load of BS. Sure it's not "fully illegal" in the same way that technically methadone can be bought and sold. Like everything else you people get your grubby dick beaters on it winds up being regulated such that the only people who can justify going through the hoops other than governments that get preferential treatment are businesses specializing solely in doing whatever activity you're regulating. It used to be possible for a man to have a side gig without violating the law, be it a school or something else, not anymore thanks to the likes of you. | | |
| ▲ | exe34 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | if you love freedom so much, you should move to Somalia! no government to tax and regulate your life! |
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| ▲ | samdoesnothing 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Isn't that contradictory? If a school doesn't meet certain standards presumably it would be illegal? | | |
| ▲ | exe34 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | The concept of a school wouldn't be illegal. The people running the school would be committing crimes or at least be in some level of legal trouble with the city council, state or federal law. They could either be fined or go to prison, or they could get the relevant paperwork sorted out. | | |
| ▲ | samdoesnothing 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The concept of a school wouldn't be illegal. Yes it is, you explicitly said it would be illegal if you didn't get permission from the government. What you meant to say was that "The concept of a government-approved school wouldn't be illegal." which is very different from the concept of any school being legal, and also redundant because by definition a government-approved school is a legal school, since governments hold a monopoly on the legal system. |
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| ▲ | riskable 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Imagine being so sure you can do whatever TF you want that you ignore the law and build a school where one is not allowed to be built. |
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| ▲ | wmichelin 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | How does this hurt you if your kids don't go there? | | |
| ▲ | bartvk 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It doesn't hurt me personally but the article opens with the sentence "Neighbors complained about noise, security guards, and hordes of traffic. An unlicensed school named after the Zuckerbergs’ pet chicken tipped them over the edge." | | |
| ▲ | CalRobert 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sounds like a lot of the problem was caused by cars, which shouldn't be necessary for a school, ideally. | | |
| ▲ | bdcravens 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The kids have to school and back home somehow, and ditto for the employees. Drive by a local school when it ends the day and marvel at the parents in line to collect their children. | | |
| ▲ | CalRobert an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah I’m just grousing about how rotten design is when kids need to be driven to school, and if people don’t like traffic the solution is to forbid cars, not schools. |
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| ▲ | em-bee 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | that's a culture/car/public-transport problem, not a school problem. in a place where cars are the only way to get around you can't have any popular place without cars. |
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| ▲ | fecal_henge 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Some people have the capacity to think something is wrong even if they are not affected. | |
| ▲ | somanyphotons 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Kids will slam car doors at dropoff/pickup. It's pretty annoying. I used to live around the corner from a school and parents would use our street for it. They can also cause unexpected heavy traffic if they have some special event. | |
| ▲ | Psillisp 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Good fences make good neighbors | |
| ▲ | riskable 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Seriously? Beyond the unaccounted safety and traffic situation, you've obviously never lived next to a school. Kids are loud AF! I lived right behind an elementary school (playgound was kitty-corner to my fence) two houses ago. During recess and lunch time, the kids were so loud I had to shout to hear people next to me inside my house. ...but forget all that: What you're advocating for is lawlessness. If you don't like the law, lobby to change it! Don't just violate it and screw over your neighbors in the mean time. | |
| ▲ | exe34 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | When billionaires break the law, we all suffer. I'll let you try to figure out why. you seem like a smart chap. | | |
| ▲ | potato3732842 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Your complaint amounts to "the law is not popular enough to be easily enforced against someone who has the means to defend themselves out of principal" Repeal the law. Then nobody is breaking it. | | |
| ▲ | exe34 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's an odd conclusion to come to from the premise. It's actually an argument against billionaires. |
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| ▲ | ashtonshears 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Weird take; Mark is literally a ruler, and the people are defending against his right to enforce his own rules?? |
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| ▲ | hunterpayne 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think when people think of the other side, they think of HOA's and their petty rules. So its how people feel about HOAs vs how people feel about the CEO of a social media company. Now, the article claims MZ didn't file the proper permits. But this reads like a hit piece so take those claims about someone with a raft of lawyers not filing the proper permits with a grain of salt. What this isn't is some sort of political dispute that effects any of the rest of us. Its sort of rich people using PR as leverage in a dispute with someone who is really really rich. Nothing to see here, move along... |
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| ▲ | SilverElfin 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Suddenly all the YIMBY people are upset just because it’s Zuck. |