Mmmmhhhhh… There is the problem of the middleman (the telcos): you are using them for communication.

I guess if the USPS/Fedex knew for a fact (such as your website request) that you were communicating CP, the. they should do something about it?

This is an honest question.

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AnthonyMouse 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> I guess if the USPS/Fedex knew for a fact (such as your website request) that you were communicating CP, the. they should do something about it?

That is often the case, but it's also not the relevant part, because consider what happens if you do that. I mean it's the same thing that happens with parcel carriers -- everybody's package ends up in an opaque brown box and the carrier has no means to determine if it's contraband. They just weigh it and deliver it, which is what they're supposed to do, because they're not the police.

And so it is with ISPs. What happens if you make them block stuff people actually want? TLS, third party DNS, VPNs, etc.

At that point you have to answer a different question: Should they be obligated to open and censor your mail?

No. The answer is no.

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tracker1 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I wonder if some level of censorship could be considered a 4A violation at some point...

The idea of outright banning VPNs seems to be along these lines imo.

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dingnuts 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Should they be obligated to open and censor your mail?

they are. they're not obligated to go through every package but they are absolutely obligated to turn over packages to law enforcement, and they do, and law enforcement will one hundred percent open and go through your mail. and if they find something you shouldn't have they will dress up as a mail carrier to deliver it to you and then detain you!

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make exactly but this is a losing battle

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		If the government wants to read your mail, they need a warrant. And then it's the government doing it, not a private company, and you have a right to a trial and to see the evidence presented against you etc. etc., which is why it shouldn't be put on a private company who isn't going to do any of that.

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