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rileymat2 5 hours ago

But he lists the problems? Pretty unambiguously.

crazygringo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The problems are nowhere near actionable. A lot more information is needed.

E.g. literally the first bullet: "It doesn't follow our translation guidelines". OK -- where are those guidelines? Is there a way to get it to follow them, like another commenter says works? Does the person need help following the process for that? Or is there a bug? Etc.

These are the things a call can clarify. It's the necessary first step, so why are people complaining?

handoflixue 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> where are those guidelines?

It's entirely possible that such information is well-known to everyone involved in the translation community.

I would consider it outright insulting if someone who ostensibly "wants to help" doesn't know basic information like that - if the people making decisions about SumoBot are NOT aware of basic information like "where to find the local translation guidelines" then they are presumably not qualified to release a tool like SumoBot in the first place.

kentm 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep agree with this. Nothing is more infuriating than someone Kramering into a space trying “to help” without spending any time or effort trying to understand that space.

They should have understood the guidelines before turning on their machine translation in a given locality.

kentm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Turning off the machine translation and reverting all the changes it made seems pretty actionable to me. They can turn it back on when issues are addressed.

benatkin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Indeed. Turning it off would still satisfy marsf's requests:

- I prohibit to use all my translation as learning data for SUMO bot and AIs.

- I request to remove all my translation from learned data of SUMO AIs.

Before fixing it and re-enabling it in some capacity, they could work with marsf to find a solution.

BrenBarn 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They are actionable by entirely canceling the machine translation operations in that community,