Java has it's place but it was delivered in such a way that it created an immense amount of collateral damage and lasting technical debt.

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pavlov an hour ago | parent | next [-]

WebObjects was originally written in Objective-C.

Now that's a fine language for a server. It combines the type safety of Ruby, the memory safety of C, and the terseness of Java.

(I'm joking, mostly... Actually I was a big fan of Obj-C for desktop apps. Fond memories of times when I didn't have to care about servers and ever-changing web frameworks.)

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firecall 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I was kinda trying being funny or sarcastic or something like that :-)

And amusing to myself how many people actually remember or know what WebObjects was!

	▲	karel-3d an hour ago \| parent [-]
		All I know about is it the great box art. It always looked so cool and mysterious to me as a young developer. The same with everything called "XSan" and "Mac OS X Server". I don't know what any of it was, but the box art was always so cool.