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naasking 17 hours ago

* Humans are not deterministic.

* Humans that make mistakes are still considered to be reasoning.

* Deterministic algorithms have limitations, like Goedel incompleteness, which humans seem able to overcome, so presumably, we expect reasoning to also be able to overcome such challenges.

notepad0x90 5 hours ago | parent [-]

1) I didn't say we were, but when someone is called reasonable or acting with reason, then that implies deterministic/algorithmic thinking. When we're not deterministic, we're not reasonable.

2) Yes, to reason does imply to be infallible. The deterministic algorithms we follow are usually flawed.

3) I can't speak much to that, but I speculate that if "AI" can do reasoning, it would be a much more complex construct that uses LLMs (among other tools) as tools and variables like we do.