| ▲ | hamdingers 8 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
> But it rolled in so rapidly that it was universal before we had the chance to push back. This can't be it. I was in high school when smartphones were coming out and there was zero tolerance for them or any other electronic devices (dumbphones, ipods, palm pilots, etc) in the classroom. I don't know when or why it happened but allowing smartphones in school was a conscious choice and a policy change. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | zhivota 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Pretty simple really, we're basically all [1] addicted to smartphones, so we basically all [1] advocated for this. After all, to admit it was a problem for our kids, we'd have to also admit it could be a problem for ourselves. Even I find myself holding onto my phone during most of the day when not on my computer, I don't even know why. It's an incredibly addictive piece of technology. [1] - to a first order of approximation, yes I know you're the exception | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | DavidPiper 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Hey, we must have been in high school at the same time. I saw the same thing going through my final years. But when I went back to visit the school a few years after I left... Things were very different. I'd say there was definitely a grace period (roughly iPhone -> iPhone 4 maybe?) where device addiction wasn't yet normalised, and the real world hadn't ceded control yet. Not sure what happened at the school level after that, but somewhere along the way phones (devices as they were called then) everywhere all the time became very normal. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pessimizer 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Upper-middle class parents addicted to constant communication with their children started complaining about their kid's not being allowed to carry their phones, nearly at the level of implying it was a human rights violation. They combined this with worries about school shootings (that cellphones haven't ever helped with to my knowledge, unless having live recordings of children being murdered is help.) After they got it, it was instantly allowed everywhere. It was another result of the "activism" of the same suburban let me speak to your manager class that has been ruining everything for the past 20 years. edit: A lot of parents are constantly texting back and forth with their kids all day. It's basically their social media, especially if they don't have any friends, and I bet in plenty of cases a huge burden to the children. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | paulddraper 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Agreed. There existed a period of time where handheld communication devices existed and were banned. Sometime later, someone somewhere made a conscious choice to change policy. It didn’t just happen. | |||||||||||||||||
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