We clearly aren’t watching the same video.

What you see as “thrusting” sure looks to me like he was trying to stop himself from a full-on run - why did he grab a door handle on the wall? Why would you grab and pull like that if you were trying to tackle?

And “grabbing his legs”… come on man. That looks a hell of a lot like an old man flailing after getting tackled.

And you think he grappled with the officer before getting arrested outside? It looks like precisely the opposite.

I’m sorry, I just can’t buy what you’re selling.

▲

somenameforme a day ago | parent [-]

I didn't say he was trying to tackle, I said he was trying to create a physical altercation, probably with the premeditated goal of trying to sue and/or buy time for the likely illegal aliens working for him - not only for their sake, but because hiring illegal aliens is a felony. I don't believe you believe that he just 'accidentally fell' exactly on the officer exactly as he came into range.

The reason he grabbed the door handle is because in his mind he thought he was going to be the one knocking the officer down. He's a big and very aggressive guy that's this spry at 79 - I'm positive this wasn't even remotely close to his first rodeo. He grabbed on to help maintain balance.

As another issue he wasn't running anywhere in particular, except towards the officer. As soon as he collides, he then gets up from crashing into him he turns around and starts racing back towards him again. He then pushes the other officer at 28 seconds and begins grappling with yet a third officer at 30 seconds. He's then tackled at 35 seconds.

Given he was not arrested for intentionally crashing into the first officer I think ICE was generally trying their hardest to ignore him, but that probably became impossible about the point he actively decided to start grappling with them.

▲

drewbug01 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> probably with the premeditated goal of trying to sue and/or buy time for the likely illegal aliens working for him

My bad. Didn’t realize you already knew his heart, and that this was premeditated. And that you clearly know who his employees were and that they were here illegally.

Whoops. Since we know they’re guilty, I guess all that’s left to do is find the evidence!

Enjoy yourself. I won’t engage in this uncharitable, ugly discussion with you anymore. I hope you find peace in you heart, and I hope others treat you with the charity and dignity you’re clearly unwilling to give others.

	▲	somenameforme 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Feel free to try to create a plausible explanation for his aggressive behavior otherwise. Why would you say he was running towards the office officer only to 'accidentally' land on him right as he passed him? And then why would he go outside, push one officer, and begin grappling with another? This is not how normal people behave. He actually gave an explanation for this which we clearly know is a lie - he claimed that "when he tried to speak with the agents and show them the legal paperwork for his employees, they shoved him to the ground, and at least one agent put his knee on Shouhed’s neck." [1] He probably wasn't aware the outside altercation had been recorded. Where's the paperwork? And in this case 5 illegal aliens were arrested, including one who had already been arrested and deported twice previously. There's a balance to all things in life. Obviously we should not be blindly prejudiced against individuals on one extreme, yet on the equal but opposite extreme one can be so open minded that your brain falls out. [1] - https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admin-sued-for-50m-over-immig...