This is known. The problem is that the EU is hooked on us technology. I don’t see this untangling soon which is a big strategic weakness

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BiteCode_dev 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Pretty much yes. From Saas to authentication systems to OS to chips. The EU infra is entirely dependent on the US. All documents, emails, chat messages, and most forms of storage are directly or indirectly linked to an American service.

On top of that, the US can update it all remotely, including the hardware now thanks to things like intel ME.

Let's hope we never get into a conflict with them, because even without bombs, they can basically shut us down with a few keystrokes: https://www.bitecode.dev/p/the-eu-can-be-shut-down-with-a-fe...

Or at least have everything they need to develop such a capability. And it's not like the current people in power care much about alienating other countries.

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cesarb 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> the US can update it all remotely, including the hardware now thanks to things like intel ME

Let's not be excessively alarmist; AFAIK, the Intel ME is not (unless you're using things like vPro) exposed directly to the network, you need the cooperation of the operating system to reach the ME.

Of course, said operating system is usually Microsoft Windows, which can be updated remotely... (and even Linux users often use USA-based distributions).

	▲	BiteCode_dev 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		According to its specs, but since it's a black box for which we have neither the source nor the design documents, and given that implementing back doors is a regular request from governments, it's a logical concern.

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autoexec 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> From Saas to authentication systems to OS to chips. The EU infra is entirely dependent on the US.

I would absolutely love to see the EU invest in developing processors and operating systems. It'd benefit us all to have real competition in those spaces, and it's the only way the EU can ever keep their data out of the hands of the US government.