I do worry if they are adding this to buses what are they doing to MacBooks and your phone? Do people here think these devices are compromised or should we take Apple’s word for it!?

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oezi 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The biggest concern I have is with cheap PC accessories, wireless routers and smarthome equipment. Also solar power inverters with their online tracking apps. In case of war, all of these would be remotely weaponized, IMHO.

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subscribed 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very much on topic:

- https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_... - https://www.wired.com/story/gigabyte-motherboard-firmware-ba...

Soooo, yeah.

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wiseowise 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you seriously think Apple wouldn’t notice? They’re probably one of the most hated companies in the world, millions are itching to see them fail.

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ChrisMarshallNY 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They’re probably one of the most hated companies in the world

By tecchies.

That’s like adding “In Mice,” to headlines of biological breakthroughs.

It’s quite clear that a fairly significant majority of customers don’t hate Apple. They aren’t “brand slaves,” like Harley riders (anymore), but people clearly vote with their wallets.

Microsoft always had the “My work requires it” thing going, but only a couple of industries are majority Apple.

Like it or not, people pay personal money for Apple kit, and they are a demographic that marketers drool over.

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andy_ppp 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So where will they get Mac’s or iPhones made if they found out there was some shenanigans going on?

	▲	jonplackett 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The make a lot of stuff in India and Vietnam now due to the tariffs and general attempts at diversifying

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timeon 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And that other place, with the Cloud act.

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hollerith 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Although TSMC might be able to compromise it, Apple's hardware security is good enough that it is very unlikely that any supplier in China can compromise it. All data outside the SOC is encrypted.

It's all the other stuff made in China that is the worry, not the stuff designed by Apple, or Google.

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immibis 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course they're compromised, by Apple, to comply with UK law.

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buildbot 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Well only in the UK, if you have the -banned in the UK- ADP on as far as people know it’s not compromised

	▲	lmm 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If the NSA hasn't compromised them then what are they even spending their budget on?