I think the GNOME/GTK devs alienated numerous devs. I tried to talk to ebassi but he censored me on reddit as a consequence. He does not like people speaking up against what the GTK devs do.

I have no hope for GTK. It is a GNOMEy toolkit now.

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hulitu 18 hours ago | parent [-]

> I have no hope for GTK. It is a GNOMEy toolkit now.

G(nome)T(ool)K(it). It always was. It is a CADT program: every new version is a complete and incompatible implementation of the old version.

	▲	neilv 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> G(nome)T(ool)K(it). It always was. I believe it was the "Gimp Tool Kit" originally, and Wikipedia agrees: > GTK (formerly GIMP ToolKit[3] and GTK+[4]) is a free open-source widget toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces (GUIs)[5] Maybe the confusion is that it was sometimes called "GTK+" in the brand name originally (though most people just said "GTK" anyway, and that's what the code identifiers said). Gimp (the photo/image editor) was already pretty sophisticated for years before Gnome was even started. The first Gnome-branded library that I recall in the GTK space was Gnome Canvas. The earlier commenter's point stands. Though my impression was that GTK was de facto taken over by Gnome around GTK 3 (though you could still write GUI apps without bringing in the fleet of Gnome desktop services).