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tptacek 21 hours ago

Didn't this effort start with Mozilla and not Google? I think you will in fact forget the name Mason Freed, just like most of us forgot about XSLT.

indolering 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It started with Mozilla, Apple, and Opera jumping ship and forming WHATWG. That stopped new XML related technologies from being adopted in browsers twenty years ago. Google is just closing the casket and burying the body.

simoncion 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Didn't this effort start with Mozilla and not Google?

Maybe round one of it like ten years ago did? From what I understand, it's a Google employee who opened the "Hey, I want to get rid of this and have no plans to provide a zero-effort-for-users replacement." Github Issue a few months back.

JimDabell 20 hours ago | parent [-]

> It was opened by a Chrome engineer after at least two meetings where a Mozilla engineer raised the topic, and where there was apparently vendor support for it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44953349

simoncion 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't see any evidence of that claim from the materials I have available to me. [0] is the Github Issue I mentioned. [1] is the WHATNOT meeting notes linked to from that GH Issue... though I have no idea who smaug is.

[0] <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11523>

[1] <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11146#issuecomment-275...>

JimDabell 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Smaug is the Mozilla engineer they were talking about:

https://github.com/smaug----

simoncion 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, that was my problem... I didn't put enough minuses after the nickname. ;)

tptacek 20 hours ago | parent [-]

You can remember their name forever now!

simoncion 19 hours ago | parent [-]

You appear to have forgotten how to scroll up and notice that the name of the OP is not my name. ;)

tptacek 19 hours ago | parent [-]

No, I know, I'm just being silly. Sorry, I didn't mean to attribute that sentiment to you.

righthand 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Hilarious, thanks. Sorry you have issues with memory.

righthand 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would I forget about XSLT a really good technology pushed to the wayside by bad faith actors? Why would I forget Mason Freed? A person dedicating themselves to ruining perfectly good technology that needs a little love.

Do you have some sort of exclusive short term memory or something where you can’t remember someone’s name? Bizarre reply. Other people may have had a similarly lazy idea, but Mason is the one pushing and leading the charge.

It seems maybe you want me to blame this on Google as a whole but that would mean bypassing blame and giving into their ridiculous bs.

tptacek 14 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NqLGp6qRuU