i used multiple dishwashers in multiple countries. blomberg, ge, bosch, miele, lg. used pods for as long as they exist (with exception of miele that has detergent cartridge that is good for two dozens of cycles). the only times when I had problem with dishwasher performance it's when either dishwasher had physical malfunction, dishwasher arms were blocked by some object or when i forgot to put pod.

is my experience of dishwashers extraordinary ?

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jogu a day ago | parent [-]

His stance is less that pods don't perform, and more that powders perform just as well and are less wasteful.

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tguvot a day ago | parent [-]

pods are about convenience. exactly same reason that i got dishwasher with detergent cartridges and washing machine with build in container for detergent.

but if we talk about powders, they can be very different with different performance. There are commercial powders (for restaurants and such where dishwashers run on very short cycles) that I afraid to put in my dishwasher and there are eco powders that are made from unicorn tears (tried once, they cleaned dirt but leave stains on clear glass). i went through sds of a bunch of them. most of them have same similar basic ingredients, but in different proportions

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eitau_1 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can't remember if it was main video or second channel one, in which Alec states with confidence that big brands make powder worse on purpose to push their higher margin pods.

The opinion is based on his experience (horrible residue left by big-name powder in contrast to store-branded great-value powders being problem-free) and lab results.

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tguvot 16 hours ago | parent [-]

i used cascade powder to refill miele cartridges. there was 0 difference with regards to residue/etc. also SDS was very similiar.

i just went to check amazon. cascade complete powder has 4.6 with 9k reviews. if it was subpar, pretty sure that rating would have reflected it. for example plant based detergents hover around 4.

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_whiteCaps_ 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's also highly dependent on how soft your water is. The people complaining about performance probably have hard water. Do you ever have to descale your kettle / coffee maker?

	▲	tguvot 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		i used to live in area with very hard water. used softening salt in dishwasher. later switched to pods that were advertised to have water softening compounds and used them without softening salt.

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lotsofpulp 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have used Kirkland pods for years and have never noticed residue.

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1718627440 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How is fiddling a thing out of a box more convenient than putting a spoon in a box? I don't get that argument.

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tguvot 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

when i used pods, i had open box under counter. i could with literally closed eyes to take one and put it in machine without looking. using spoon involves more actions and there are chance that some of the powder will end up on floor/inside cabinet/etc.

now i use cartridge like this that is replaced once in 3 weeks https://www.mieleusa.com/c/powerdisk-automatic-dishwasher-de...

it's even more convenient.

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platevoltage 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you have to go to a laundromat, carrying a couple pods with you is way more convenient.

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1718627440 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Vs. carrying a small box, that you would also carry for pods, because you don't want to hold them in your hand the whole time?

	▲	platevoltage 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I bring a bag to the store. Is it more convenient? no, is it the right thing to do? yes. I'm just making the point that they are more convenient for people in this situation.
	▲	tguvot 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		you can put pods with laundry. no need in box