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zigzagger11 2 days ago

Um. This is a disturbing article but the source is a Christian website monitoring for the Apocalypse.

sbuttgereit 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's a fair point. I actually posted the article mostly to get discussion... and before I realized exactly what the rest of the website was about. So I would urge taking things in that spirit, including feeling free to call out that the assertions in the article are wrong in fact or interpretation.

I do think it raises some fair questions about the drive to certain forms of digital commerce and identification. Perhaps, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.... at least sometimes...

For the record, I've seen no convincing evidence for the existence of a divine presence of any sort and don't support most of the site's messaging. Sure, we could be on the edge of real apocalypse, but am very doubtful that, should that day come, it will be the Christian Apocalypse or the same prophesied from any other faith for that matter.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

For one, the WEF is not actually aiming for people to "own nothing and be happy," as the author states.

Lammy a day ago | parent | next [-]

Why did they say it? https://xcancel.com/wef/status/983378870819794945

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

Those are predictions...not policies. You'll note that the WEF is far from the only group saying that meat consumption will go down because of climate change.

DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

> Those are predictions...not policies.

Bill Gates makes some interesting predictions that happen to tightly align with how he advises leaders, and invests.

Kind of the same thing, here.

Split the hairs.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

The WEF (one member in an opinion piece) said that subscription-based services will become cheap & fast enough that owning things will become less desirable than renting. That's the conspiracy here.

I'm fully willing to believe that the rich are conspiring against us, but the whole "own nothing and be happy," is just another meme-level conspiracy theory. Believe it if you want, but there is NO PUBLIC PLAN BY THE WEF TO REMOVE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. You can even read in their 2030 document that they explicitly endorse ownership of private property.

DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

They don’t even need to conspire for this to become true,

it is happening by momentum alone, now.

Food delivery is offering financing.

From the jump off point of what they said, and where we’re at, you can start to see how it doesn’t really matter if it’s listed as a top goal on the header of their website or not……………………

zigzagger11 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

So then what does the WEF have to do with it.

Nothing. It's happening anyways, you just said so.

narrator a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The WEF did publish an article that said that. They may have deleted it by now because of all the bad press it generated.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

It said that, as in it literally said that that was a prediction the member had for the future. It is no way an economic policy of the WEF. And its not deleted.

shwaj a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe Klaus shouldn’t have said it then.

DANmode a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a disingenuous-at-best interpretation of that story.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

Not really. Show me where the WEF is publicly planning to get rid of private ownership.

DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

Sibling comments are more than sufficient.

You will engage in some form of hair-splitting about what he was saying, or whether or not he actually speaks for the organization.

More than enough here if someone wanted to look.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

lol no. You have no proof and thus will supply none. Your assumptions (about me) are also baseless and frankly pathetic. Is the WEF also planning to remove the US as the world's superpower? It's another of their predictions for 2030.

DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

Help me understand what perspective you need to be reading from to see the deleted statements, and go into a defensive strategy for the WEF?

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent [-]

Which deleted statements would those be. I can see that the original 2016 article has not been deleted. Klaus Schwab referencing it during COVID is also not deleted. Neither is the video on X which has the quote, along with a series of other predictions.

So what exactly are you privy to here that the rest of us aren't.

DANmode a day ago | parent [-]

Okay, same question without the word “deleted”.

lol.

backscratches 20 hours ago | parent [-]

You have to admit the fact alone that you said it was deleted when it was not makes you the least reliable kind of conspiracy theorist.

DANmode 19 hours ago | parent [-]

The point of the conversation (for me!) was never whether or not it was still accessible...

See my other comments, you may realize that there's no conspiracy theory, or conspiring, even necessary.

leptons a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Way back in the 90's I used to date a pretty crazy Christian girl who saw my tech prowess as useful for fighting "the mark of the beast" which she thought was some kind of future government electronic ID. While she was kind of nuts about Christian conspiracies, I actually kind of agreed about where we were headed with electronic surveillance - even back in the 90's we kind of saw this coming.

ForgetItJake a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's interesting how people often have the same fears and enemies but express and interpret them in different ways.

zigzagger11 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd prefer to read about techno-dystopianism from a source that isn't actively looking and praying for signs of the end of the world...

EvanAnderson a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I remember the local evangelical TV station running "documentaries" about the "mark of the beast" and "cashless societies" when I was a kid in the early 90s. I assume this is more of that.