| ▲ | mschuster91 2 days ago | |||||||
> It seems to be a bipartisan thing in the UK to recognize that the electorate really doesn’t want immigration Usually, it's not an "inner wish" of the electorate, but the electorate gets manipulated to feel that way by mass media, especially tabloids. Outrage sells, after all, especially when it can be laced to make it more effective. The problem at the core is that immigration is vital for societies, especially the low-pay-hard-labor segment. Has the UK found a replacement for Ukrainian and Polish farm workers yet [1]? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/15/pounds-6... | ||||||||
| ▲ | eru 2 days ago | parent [-] | |||||||
> Usually, it's not an "inner wish" of the electorate, but the electorate gets manipulated to feel that way by mass media, especially tabloids. Outrage sells, after all, especially when it can be laced to make it more effective. As you say, the tabloids sell what people want to read. Who's manipulating whom? > The problem at the core is that immigration is vital for societies, especially the low-pay-hard-labor segment. Has the UK found a replacement for Ukrainian and Polish farm workers yet [1]? Immigration is also good for the would be immigrants. Though if you are only interested in cheap labour (and giving foreigners jobs which are better than what they can get at home), you can run a guest worker programmer without giving them the right to stay. Singapore has a few successful programmes like that. Ie you can have cheap labour without permanent immigration. I'm in favour of open borders; but if for political reasons you can't have permanent immigration, guest worker programmes are better than completely closed borders. | ||||||||
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