Def know lots about you and def didn't think you were dunking on Paul, hence my curiosity, because it was specifically you Mr. Ptacek. :)

Thanks for the answer, I'll check out the book.

Thanks for the answer, I'll check out the book.

It's a great read, but to echo what I said above: there have been a lot of questions over the years about the veracity of some of the details of their book. Take that for what it's worth. I enjoyed it enough that I've read it 3 or 4 times, but I do also suggest consulting other books on the same stories - particularly the stuff around K. Mitnick.