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wahnfrieden 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Escape from pitchforks

Integrape 2 days ago | parent [-]

Shooting the billionaires into outer space would make the world a better place.

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Schumer isn't engineering anything lol

throwawaysoxjje 2 days ago | parent [-]

Republicans control all three branches the government.

Ajedi32 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Not the Senate. That takes 60 votes to end the democrat's filibuster, which is why the last dozen attempts by republicans to pass a clean CR with no changes to the current budget failed. (The last one yesterday[1] failed with 54 in favor 44 against. Three democrats voted with the republicans in that vote, still not enough.)

[1]: https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2025-10-03-senate-again-fa...

platevoltage 2 days ago | parent [-]

Not having supermajority doesn't mean they aren't in control. The fact is, the president could say one sentence, and the shutdown would be over. It's no surprise that the last 2 record setting shutdowns happened under this president.

Ajedi32 2 days ago | parent [-]

They're in control of some things certainly, but not this. The decision to filibuster republican attempts to re-open the government is almost entirely up to Schumer, and under current rules the republicans can't do anything about that without 60 votes.

You're right of course that Trump could probably persuade Schumer to end the shutdown by agreeing to his demands, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that means he's in "control" of what's happening. (Let alone the insanity of trying to suggest Elon Musk is somehow to blame as previous commenters did, or that X users are for continuing to use X. This thread about a new link preloading feature in Twitter got very off topic very quickly.)

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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selectodude 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Next time the party in power should consider not burning its reconciliation power on handing tens of billions to create a new secret police.

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

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thrance 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Either the democrats vote the budgets in which republicans have removed all healthcare funding and millions die of preventable diseases, or they don't and millions starve because republicans are illegally holding onto the money for food stamps. How is it on the democrats again?

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

You are ignoring the possibility of a CR, which would continue SNAP funding while allowing discussion on healthcare funding to continue.

SpicyLemonZest 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If congressional Republicans could guarantee all funding will continue under a CR, I bet the shutdown would be over by now. But they can't, because in July they ratified Trump's authority to cancel any appropriated funding he wants. When challenged on rescissions, the Speaker said they're going to continue regardless!

How are budget negotiations supposed to work if one of the sides won't even promise to honor the agreements made?

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

They are going to hold out the rest of trumps term over a hypothetical? Sounds insane

SpicyLemonZest 2 days ago | parent [-]

Anyone who's invested enough to attention to the budget fight knows that it's not a hypothetical. Trump has killed a number of programs and departments that were funded by previous CRs, and has explicitly promised to continue doing so. I know you know this isn't true, but I don't understand what you think it accomplishes to lie, other than to further radicalize people against Trumpism.

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

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SpicyLemonZest 2 days ago | parent [-]

I genuinely do not understand who you think you're fooling here. When you find yourself miserable, alone, and unemployed because nobody will accept a former Trump supporter into their lives, I hope you remember that I told you so.

MSM 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not only is SNAP already funded via emergency funds, the administration was just told to resume SNAP benefits and they are unsurprisingly doing the absolute minimum.

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

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gruez 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>Cutting food stamps.

How is Musk involved in the current budget debacle aside from being "republican"? It's easy to blame stuff on him when he was running DOGE, but since his falling out with trump blaming every cut on Musk is a tired and expired meme.

mayneack 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Given how much he contributed to the election outcome it hardly seems tired to blame him for the consequences.

Plus he's on Twitter every week publicly discussing how much he uses the platform to put his thumb on the scale of discourse towards his personal beliefs.

In what world is he not involved?

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

The consequences of blocking a CR?

mayneack 2 days ago | parent [-]

The consequences of the 2024 election in which he played a significant role. This "budget debacle" is a direct consequence.

Also, Elon has weighed in quite aggressively on prior budgetary fights, so it would be crazy to say his influence isn't being felt here. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5046887-elon-musk-slam...

nutjob2 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"He gave the federal government organizational cancer, but he left now so he's not to blame"

Americans will be living with Musk's legacy for decades.

1234letshaveatw 2 days ago | parent [-]

Hopefully, fingers crossed

hn_acc1 2 days ago | parent [-]

I hope, of all people here, you most directly feel the influence of Musk in your life.. Trust me, it will not be pleasant..

rootlocus 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Actions speak to the character of a person. And some actions have long lasting consequences.

oulipo2 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not because he no longer works there that he doesn't have the exact same ideology. And now he's trying to push a Trump-like figure in the UK

platevoltage 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm okay with blaming him along with all of these Austin turds with podcasts.