I feel like we'll not only live to see the day where we're finally out from under the clutches of the RIAA, but that that day is fast approaching.

The death of the RIAA will come from an open source music gen model that busts open the economics of music IP. And probably one from the Chinese.

It's been announced that AI-generated music is already starting to top charts [1, 2]. The RIAA moved to shut down Udio [3, 4] and succeeded in getting them to capitulate to onerous demands [5]. They're probably trying to shut down Suno and the rest as we speak.

If a solid music gen model comes out of China, the RIAA will be toast.

Nobody is going to go after every single song published and ask them to show their sources. That's absurd. There just aren't the resources to do that. And generative software will eventually generate those anyway.

Once this begins to proliferate in the open, there won't be any control levers left.

The RIAA couldn't stop RVC models. Once there are more powerful models, it's game over. Every DAW will bake them in and everyone will have a complete working studio on their desktop.

Tencent is working really hard on this [6, 7]. There's no way the tentacles of the RIAA can stop China.

We've already artists switching to concerts and merch as the primary means of revenue generation. Switching to using singles and albums are more promotional of the artists' brands - that's the correct model.

[1] https://www.billboard.com/lists/ai-artists-on-billboard-char...

[2] https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/01/entertainment/xania-monet-bil...

[3] https://www.riaa.com/record-companies-bring-landmark-cases-f...

[4] https://musically.com/2025/09/29/riaa-updates-udio-lawsuit-a...

[5] https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/universal-music-settl...

[6] https://cypress-yang.github.io/SongBloom_demo/

[7] https://github.com/tencent-ailab/SongBloom

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BigTTYGothGF 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> The death of the RIAA will come from an open source music gen model that busts open the economics of music IP.

The master's house will not be destroyed by cow tools.

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officeplant 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>It's been announced that AI-generated music is already starting to top charts

It's not hard to be slop with slop. If we're being honest here.

> Every DAW will bake them in

And this is when my love of music will finally start to die. Living long enough to see DAWs elevate the common hobby musician into developing a skillset, only to give in to the AI hype cycles and kill the soul of creativity.

But at least the main DAW I use these days (Renoise) is so traditionally minded that kind of slop shit will never make it into an update since the userbase would riot in response.

May the AI enjoy the rot in their soulless world.

	▲	echelon 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> It's not hard to be slop with slop A tool in and of itself is not slop. What someone makes can classify as slop if the person doesn't have skills and taste. If they're not diligent about their work and careful about what they share. A real artist is capable of using any tool available to them. > Living long enough to see DAWs elevate the common hobby musician into developing a skillset, only to give in to the AI hype cycles and kill the soul of creativity. Are you angry about AI code completion? Is tab suggest/autocomplete ruining your love of programming? Are all the "common hobbyists" going to make you exit your career?

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goopypoop 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

mush can't save art

	▲	echelon 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		You can make art with literally anything. I once hooked up lasers, galvos, and a web cam with some band pass filters to make an interactive art demo where people could draw onto the side of tall buildings using a laser pointer. The web cam tracked the laser pointer and the projector I built traced your work and displayed it with persistence. None of those ingredients would scream art at face value. It takes an artist to assemble them into something that captivates others. AI is simply one more tool in the tool belt for an artist. You might be talking about "prompting". Such as someone typing something lazily into ChatGPT and calling the output "art". I'll give you that. Without sufficient intention, taste, or curation, it's not going to hold attention. I'm talking about tools for artists like these: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQaorWJETXe/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQakfG2D3tN/ https://x.com/get_artcraft/status/1972723816087392450 (something I made) Or tools for musicians like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2CQLZIlbI Or even interactive art that leverages AI and involves the viewer, like these: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fW9LI6dwCX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hnIPdVZK1A I'm a filmmaker and I've made countless "photons on glass" films. AI tools are incredible at getting ideas out of my head and into yours on both a time and monetary budget. I'm elated that Disney- and Pixar-level VFX are now within scope and that I don't have to be born as a nepo baby in order to direct a film with "Disney-caliber" visuals. One last analogy using pre-AI tech: not all cameras produce art. We have them in our cell phones and can use them to snap selfies and food pics. But in the hands of the right person or under the right conditions, we might call the outputs of the process of photography "art".