The Meso-American civilizations routinely engaged in human sacrifice. Tens of thousands of people per year were murdered. These weren't peaceful monks quietly engaging in scholarly pursuits. Even if you don't personally drag victims to the top of the pyramid and cut their heads off or hearts out, if you stand around and watch, you're part of the problem. I'd be interested in how you compare the details of what pre and post colonization looks like and why you weigh post colonization as evil.

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vintermann 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, that's probably the excuse that got the guy off the hook for burning the entire written history of those civilizations.

But it was not actually a good excuse. Burning those books was still wrong. Even people around him understood how wrong it was. We do not have to view colonialism from the stratosphere, we can judge the actions individually down at the ground.

We know why he wanted to focus on other things than the things he was actually personally responsible for, but what's your motive? Got a project of your own to defend?

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x3al 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Witch hunts in Europe and, to lesser extent, in colonized parts of America weren't that different.

	▲	throwaway665667 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Witch hunts were capital punishment inflicted on pagan worshipers, not human sacrifices, and they were several tens of thousands in the span of three centuries. Executions in Spain, Portugal, and Italy combined are estimated to have been 1000 in total. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunt#Execution_statistic...

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throwaway665667 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Really crazy how we are taught from an early age the horrors of the holocaust and other genocides, and aboutour moral superiority compared to those that didn't intervene back then... "Never again. If this this happened today we know better to stop it"... And then look at tens of thousand of people being mass murdered by a genocidal civilization and complain that Spain intervened because... a priests burned books (something that I absolutely do not condone of course)?

Were we wrong to destroy half of Europe to stop Germany too? Really trilled to know future generation will talk about us as the bad guys because we destroyed German art and books as we stopped a literal mass genocide.

	▲	throwaway665667 a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> We didn't "intervene" until the germans declare war on us. Yes, that was mistake and the lesson that should be learned. > The genocidal civilization was Spain, not the aztecs. This is complete revisionism, Spain laid war on the Aztecs supported even by other indians, it wasn't a voluntary biological warfare. The Aztecs killed tens of thousands of people per year. > Who is we? Who destroyed half of europe to stop germany? The allies. Are Allied bombings considered a contentious subject now? > Did we wipe out the germans? Did we wipe out the german language, culture, history, etc? Spaniards did not "wipe out" indian people, the Aztec civilization went the way of every conquered civilization. Did Arabs wipe out Egyptian language, culture, history, etc or did it dwindle in importance over the centuries as a new civilization took over the other?
	▲	hearsathought 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> and aboutour moral superiority compared to those that didn't intervene back then.. Didn't intervene? You act like it was an act of charity. We didn't "intervene" until the germans declare war on us. > And then look at tens of thousand of people being mass murdered by a genocidal civilization and complain that Spain intervened because... Spain "intervened"? The genocidal civilization was Spain, not the aztecs. The aztecs didn't wipe themselves out. The spanish did. > Were we wrong to destroy half of Europe to stop Germany too? Who is we? Who destroyed half of europe to stop germany? > Really trilled to know future generation will talk about us as the bad guys because we destroyed German art and books as we stopped a literal mass genocide. Did we wipe out the germans? Did we wipe out the german language, culture, history, etc? Are you really equating what we did to germany to what the spaniards did to the aztecs?