I'll probably get uninvited from the party for pointing this out, but Partiful is free for users because they are datamining the shit out of us. If Palantir gives any here the creeps, just fyi, Partiful was founded by several former Palantir employees, including CEO Shreya Murthy and CTO Joy Tao.

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0_____0 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

They have a page that claims they don't sell user data. Not that this makes me trust them.

https://help.partiful.com/hc/en-us/articles/26526557943067-H...

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sodality2 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Also from their (presumably more binding) privacy policy:

> We don’t sell your personal data as a source of revenue, unlike most apps -- we make money by selling drinks & snacks for your event via our Group Order feature

	▲	cube00 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> We don’t sell your personal data as a source of revenue A well compensated lawyer could drive a truck through that statement, we'll start with the classic "sharing with our (allegedly) trusted 1000 partners" that you always see on cookie popups.
	▲	Cheer2171 4 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> We don’t sell your personal data as a source of revenue What a curiously specific phrase. So if they traded your data to Palantir in exchange for hosting or services, this would still be allowed. The fact that they have another revenue stream says nothing about your data privacy. Or if Thiel has a backdoor to snoop on Silicon Valley's most intimate social networking data.
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fragmede 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If the ex-Palantir CEO (who has subsequently left Partiful) gets Palantir stock, and that stock goes up in valuation, and that CEO sells the Palantir stock (which has gone up due to Partiful giving them the social graph and Palantir being able to data mine it) and uses the money from that sale to fund Partiful, is that considered selling user data?

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varenc 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Besides the founders being ex-Palantir (left in 2018), is there much evidence for this? Their platform doesn't feel particularly data hungry to me at all.

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fragmede 4 days ago | parent [-]

Absolutely none! This is all based on FUD. But! Does knowing that an organization that's building out a social graph for as much of the developed world as they can has ties to Palantir, which has ties to governments, leave you with a warm fuzzy "I wanna give them my data!" feeling, or something else?

As far as it not feeling particularly data-mine-y: You give them your name and your phone number. Unless you're doing a lot of extra work to hide it, with data brokers and public data breaches, that's enough to get the rest of your info these days, your address, your job, you bank accounts, your family. You're giving them a list of friends, that's what they're building the site in order to ask for!

If you're findable via http://FastPeopleSearch.com, why would Partiful need to ask you for that information?

	▲	johnnyanmac 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		>Does knowing that an organization that's building out a social graph for as much of the developed world as they can has ties to Palantir, which has ties to governments, leave you with a warm fuzzy "I wanna give them my data!" feeling, or something else? I think he point is that most people won't ever even know that this is happening. >why would Partiful need to ask you for that information? well that site had a lot of annoying stuff when entering my name. Probably from my mom. But I'm happy to report that it did not actually have my phone number on record. But that's not even a dig on my mom's internet habits. She's a government worker so a lot of that is probably public record. They were just able to piece together a lot of my info based on that.