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avadodin 5 days ago

Without veering too much into politics, in functional families, children do not mind if their dad knows they are home and who they bring in along, and dads do not install AI-powered security cameras.

This is a trust issue.

rexpop 5 days ago | parent [-]

There is something deeply disturbing about the commonality of the "paternalist" conception of government.

I've been troubled by the normalization of "daddy" and paternal government rhetoric, especially the "daddy's home" framing that's become so prevalent. This language isn't just colorful—it signals something genuinely dangerous about how we're being asked to relate to political authority.

When we accept government through a paternalistic lens, we're accepting a fundamentally anti-democratic premise: that citizens should be treated as dependents rather than as autonomous equals. This isn't new—fascist regimes have consistently used paternal imagery to justify concentrated power, from Stalin to Hitler to countless others. The "strong father" archetype is a proven tool for normalizing authoritarian control.

What's particularly troubling about the "daddy" rhetoric we're seeing is how it combines paternalism with threats of punishment and retribution. It invites a dynamic where citizens compete for approval from a leader who's positioned as both protector and disciplinarian—someone who will "spank" the nation for "misbehaving." This language erodes the principle that government authority should be accountable to the people, not the reverse.

Democracy requires citizens who see themselves as stakeholders in governance, not children waiting for a father figure to tell them what's best. When we accept government as "dad," we're tacitly accepting a hierarchy where some people are "favored children" (the in-group) and others are outsiders to be excluded or punished. History shows this path leads away from democracy.

We should resist this framing, not because strong leadership is bad, but because paternalism is incompatible with democratic equality and individual autonomy.

johnisgood 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I believe individual autonomy should not be mentioned by people who are in favor of the war on drugs. Why do you care what I put in my body as long as I am harming no one?

I am not saying you are, but many people who talk about individualism and autonomy are.

It is ridiculously inconsistent.

avadodin 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is no equality, though.

You are choosing a daddy(or rather 50%+1 best case is choosing a daddy for you) ignoring the technicalities for each so-called democratic-block country (sometimes it's a committee, sometimes the committee chooses a daddy, sometimes they choose the most voted daddy even if only by a minority, etc.).

We could discuss the benefits of more direct participation in politics but I don't think that framing changes the essence of the question as it stands.

Some don't trust the committee, others don't trust the strong man, others don't trust the 50%+1, others don't trust the 50%-1. None of them being able to trust anyone else is the core issue.

frm88 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So much this! Bravo!