| ▲ | wewewedxfgdf 5 days ago |
| Who wants this? Who is driving it? Who wants this so much that they have gone to the massive expense and effort? Whoever it is - they know thet defeat is only temporary, and if they keep bringing it back from the dead, eventually it will succeed. |
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| ▲ | input_sh 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore and a couple more Hollywood celebrities united under an "NGO" called Thorn(.org). That "NGO" also happens to sell a tool called Safer(.io) that allows website owners to check hashes against known CSAM material, which I'm sure is unrelated. They also happened to have shadily employed some former high-ranking Europol officials, which is again just a pure coincidence. Balkan Insight did wonderful investigative reporting on them a couple of years back: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the... |
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| ▲ | Tade0 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I've heard those celebrities talk about this. What they (willfully?) ignore is that law enforcement is already too understaffed to handle every child abuse case with proper care, so giving them even more cases to work with won't achieve anything. | | |
| ▲ | squarefoot 5 days ago | parent [-] | | The problem isn't actual cases to work with but the ton of personal data swallowed by their AI that can be used at any time for different purposes than protecting kids, which has never been the #1 purpose of those laws. In the meantime, the number of children killed in Palestine and West Bank has surpassed 20 thousand in 2 years, and famine hit more than half a million children in Sudan. It's not like they were short of ways to show they really care about kids, but alas they don't at all. It's just an excuse to restrict personal liberties. |
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| ▲ | Onavo 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Didn't multiple HN comments trace that NGO back to the US State Department? | | |
| ▲ | hexbin010 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Could it be any more obvious that it links back to the US gov? | | |
| ▲ | Onavo 5 days ago | parent [-] | | See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45209711 Maybe learn to use a search engine, I heard it's a dying skill. | | |
| ▲ | input_sh 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I posted an investigation done by a group of professional journalists, you posted an anonymous HN comment leading to another anonymous HN comment which says "it's NSA actually". Just to make it a full circle, the author of that original comment "proves it" in the replies with that same god damn investigation I posted right here, and that investigation claims no NSA connection (only Europol). Your media literacy skills are truly non-existent. | |
| ▲ | squigz 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There appears to be no real evidence about this linked in those comments? | |
| ▲ | Onavo 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | (sorry it's meant for the sibling comment) |
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| ▲ | input_sh 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well if you say that HN comments you haven't cited say so... am I supposed to immediately believe it? |
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| ▲ | lysace 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The ultimate goal is to make anonymous speech online seem shady and suspicious (only trust thoughts from certified citizen accounts) and to make people more cautious about what they write online. Politicians are really tired of being mocked by anonymous people immune to being shamed with the help of the fourth estate (press). This legislation is one piece of the puzzle. The people pushing this come from the usual power centers in European politics, the (current) centrists. They feel motivated to protect their positions against encroachments from what they consider extremist positions (be it e.g. economic left or right, or a or b on some other scale.) |
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| ▲ | petre 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | And what they will do, if they succeed, is provide tools of repression to the extremists which of course will win the elections once confidence in the centrisrs shall further erode. | | | |
| ▲ | hulitu 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The real purpose is to supress opposition.
Like everyone who questions the Ukraine narrative, must be a Russian asset. Or questioning the Middle East narrative makes you an antisemite. | | |
| ▲ | lysace 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Like everyone who questions the Ukraine narrative, must be a Russian asset. True. They could also be insane. |
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| ▲ | irusensei 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There is a nascent AI industry trying to sell their surveillance tech to governments. |
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| ▲ | SiempreViernes 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most of all this noise is just the product of the drawn out legislative process of the EU, the commission included chat control in a larger package suggested ca 2021 and it's been working itself through the system since then, generating headlines every few months. By now it's just too late to take it back and start over without including chat control. |
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| ▲ | hulitu 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Who wants this? FAANG, various 3 letter agencies. > Who is driving it? FAANG lobbists. Stupid politicians who think they can only use it on adversaries. |
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| ▲ | gtsop 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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