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mythz 5 days ago

High availability is touted as a reason for their high prices, but I swear I read about major cloud outages far more than I experience any outages at Hetzner.

prmoustache 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think the biggest features of the big cloud vendors is that when they are down, not only you but your customers and your competitors usually have issues at the same time so everybody just shrug and have a lazy/off day at the same time. Even on call teams reall just have to wait and stay on standby because there is very little they can do. Doing a failover can be slower than waiting for the recovery, not help at all if outage is spanned accross several region, or bring aditional risks.

And more importantly nobody lose any reputation except AWS/Azure/Google.

zavec 5 days ago | parent [-]

It's like back in school when there was a snow day!

graemep 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ostensible reason.

The real reason is that outages are not your fault. Its the new version of "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" - later it became MS, and now its any big cloud provider.

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jmaker 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For one it’s statistics - Hetzner simply runs far fewer major services than hyperscalers. And the services they run are also more affluent, with larger customer bases, so downtimes are systemically critical. Therefore it’s louder.

On the merits though, I agree, haven’t had any serious issues with Hetzner.

bad_haircut72 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same with DigitalOcean. I run one box and it hasnt gone down for like 2 years

yabones 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

DO has been shockingly reliable for me. I shut down a neglected box almost 900 days uptime the other day. In that time AWS has randomly dropped many of my boxes with no warning requiring a manual stop/start action to recover them... But everybody keeps telling me that DO isn't "as reliable" as the big three are.

ipdashc 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be fair, in the AWS/Azure outages, I don't think any individual (already created) boxes went down, either. In AWS' case you couldn't start up new EC2 instances, and presumably same for Azure (unless you bypass the management portal, I guess). And obviously services like DynamoDB and Front Door, respectively, went down. Hetzner/DO don't offer those, right? Or at least they're not very popular.

robotnikman 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Same here, I run a few droplets for personal projects and never had any issues with then.

bongodongobob 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's just the admin portal.

12_throw_away 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Nope, more than the portal. For instance, I just searched for "Azure Front Door" because I hadn't heard of it before (I now know it's a CDN), and neither the product page itself [1] nor the technical docs [2] are coming up for me.

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/frontdoor

[2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/frontdoor/front-door...

NDizzle 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's absolutely not only the admin portal.

It's CDN and FrontDoor at least.

bongodongobob 5 days ago | parent [-]

Interesting, everything else is working just fine for us. Offices across the US.

Jarwain 5 days ago | parent [-]

Do you use on front door? Our VMs that don't are working fine, but our app services that do aren't.

out_sider 5 days ago | parent [-]

we use front door (as does miccrosoft.com) and our website was down, I was able to change the DNS records to point directly to our server and will leave it like that for a few hours until everything is green

Foobar8568 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Plenty of sites are down and/or login not available. It's just really a mess.

pocketman 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks like it is just the 365 admin panels for us. Admittedly, we don't currently host any other services on Azure though.

ikamm 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The bank I work at is reporting all Power Apps applications are down.