I mean if something doesn't ever work in real life then its not good. Intentions aside.

I have seen Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) work in multiple real program teams. Doing it successfully requires total commitment at multiple levels and many organizations are culturally incapable of making the transitions.

To be clear I am not claiming that SAFe is necessarily the best possible methodology. There is certainly room for improvement. But empirically it can work in real life.

	▲	fnordle 8 days ago \| parent [-]
		The organizations I've seen do SAFe at the top level "coincidentally" have so much in the way of resources that if they do software at the group level at all, they do it like a gentleman farms.

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giantg2 8 days ago | parent | prev [-]

"I mean if something doesn't ever work in real life then its not good."

Are you talking about Agile, Waterfall, or project management in general?

I've seen Agile work just fine. I've also seen it fail miserably. I've seen both of these at the same company with the main difference being how aggressive/delusional the leadership is. The easy test is if your leadership is legitimately ok with your team going home early if you complete your sprint commitment early, and it actually happens on occasion.

	▲	wonderwonder 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		"Are you talking about Agile, Waterfall, or project management in general?" lol, yes