Karpathy talked about Waymo, and he said they aren't there yet. They still have humans in the loop via telemetry and there are parts of cities they won't go to.

Karpathy is biased when it comes to self driving. Example: You can't both have humans teleoperating like he claimed, AND have cones disabling Waymos. Waymo's mistakes such as one where they were going around a parking lot honking at each other tells you they don't have humans in the loop except in the most extreme cases. He's likely correct that it's not self driving 100% of the time, but what if it's 99.999% and in the 0.001% the humans have to tell the Waymo how to get out of a very tricky situation?

Just go ride in one and make the decision for yourself. By any reasonable person's definition they are self driving.