Neovim is my favorite editor and is a brilliant TUI.

I think what TUIs get right is that they are optimized for use by the keyboard.

I don’t care if they are a pain for devs to write vs OS APIs, they have the best keyboard control so I use them. I despise the mouse due to RSI issues in the past.

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constantcrying 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Neovim instantly becomes a superior piece of software if you use any of the GUI frontends. If you use neovim inside a terminal you are just straight up using an inferior product, with less features and more problems. The terminal version is most likely slower as well as you now also have the entire legacy terminal overhead.

>I think what TUIs get right is that they are optimized for use by the keyboard.

Neovim is just as much a GUI as a TUI. You can even use it as a backend for VSCode. Nothing about the keyboard controls have anything to do with this.

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prinny_ 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If you use neovim inside a terminal you are just straight up using an inferior product, with less features and more problems

I use neovim like that and the selling point for me is that it's 1 less program that I have to install and learn with the added (crucial) benefit that it doesn't update on its own, changing UI and setting that I was used to.

	▲	rkomorn 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> it's 1 less program that I have to install It ships with your OS?
	▲	constantcrying 13 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		>benefit that it doesn't update on its own, changing UI and setting that I was used to. This exact thing remains true though, you are using the exact same neovim, but instead of it being wrapped inside a totally bizarre piece legacy software, it is rendered inside a modern graphical frontend. It looks mostly the same, except it handles fonts better, it is independent of weird terminal quirks and likely faster. There is no dowside. And again, your point about using TUI stuff because of the input method or whatever is just false. Neovide has the exact same input method, yet has a complete GUI. Using the terminal makes no sense it all, it is the worst neovim experience there is.

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tcoff91 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah but I also use a bunch of other stuff inside of Kitty so by using it in Kitty it composes well with the rest of my tools. Kitty windows and neovim splits integrate perfectly with smart splits. I even get images in the terminal and in Neovim.

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alfalfasprout 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you get using a GUI frontend? I'm genuinely curious. I have a pretty modern neovim setup and have never missed having a GUI.

Heck, on modern terminals there's even pretty great mouse integration if you want.