these aren’t anti patterns. these are just things you shouldn’t do

Still waiting for the definitive article on how using the term anti-pattern is an anti-pattern.

anotherevan 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well you do have to be careful, because if patterns and anti-patterns come into contact it could cause an explosive conflagration of regular expressions all over the place.

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readthenotes1 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If a pattern is a common problem (e.g., becoming accustomed to a spectacular view) and generally-useful solution to that problem (blocking the view so that effort is required to obtain it), then an anti-pattern is what?

I think most people think an anti-pattern is an aberration in the "solution" section that creates more problems.

So here, the anti-pattern is that people use a term so casually (e.g., DevOps) that no one knows what it's referring to anymore.

(The problem: need a way to refer to concept(s) in a pithy way. The solution: make up or reuse an existing word/phrase to incorporate the concept(s) by reference so that it can can, unambiguously, be used as a replacement for the longer description. )

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JohnHaugeland 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If a pattern is a common problem

it isn't, is the thing.

if you read the book design patterns, they spell out what a pattern is.

if you read the book anti-patterns, he spells out what an anti-pattern is.

people have gotten the wrong idea by learning the phrases from casual usage.

	▲	MaxBarraclough 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Pointing to books isn't very helpful here. Please just state the definition you are advocating.

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JadeNB 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If a pattern is a common problem (e.g., becoming accustomed to a spectacular view) and generally-useful solution to that problem (blocking the view so that effort is required to obtain it), then an anti-pattern is what?

Strange choice of example! I'm not sure I agree that your example is a common problem, and I'm even less sure that the proposed solution to it is generally useful.

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hobs 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://pragprog.com/titles/bksqla/sql-antipatterns/ There's an actual book on them that had me nodding along the entire time.

	▲	evanelias 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Agreed, it’s an excellent book by a great author. Bill is also quite prolific on Stack Overflow, and generally if you see an answer from him there, you can be confident it’s solid advice.
	▲	JohnHaugeland 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		that's a fantastic book; one of the best i've read, and i'm glad to see it get brought up but also, the book anti-patterns is pretty clear here

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karmakaze 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm waiting for the anti-patterns we shouldn't avoid.