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badsectoracula 18 hours ago

> it just uses conventions he is not used to

...and everyone else, including everyone who is also using a GUI on Linux - even if they use the GUI version of Emacs.

jama211 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, basically when they said that it should’ve begged the question “why is he not used to those conventions?” And the answer would be because the conventions it uses aren’t used by anything else (which means they can barely be called conventions), and makes no effort to adopt any conventions of the platform it’s running on even just to get you started.

Also, another user said it has a tutorial when opened which should teach the basics in “10 to 15 min” but I have a feeling I would need 0 minutes to learn the basics of turbo c++.

I get that there are diehard eMacs and vim fans and honestly I’m happy for them. But at the end of the day scientifically speaking ease of use is not JUST down to familiarity alone. You can objectively measure this stuff and some things are just harder to use than others even with preloaded info.

badsectoracula 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> I have a feeling I would need 0 minutes to learn the basics of turbo c++.

Well, Turbo C++ (at least the one in the article) does use common conventions but those were conventions of 1992 :-P. So Copy is Ctrl+Ins, Paste is Shift+Ins, save is F2, open is F3, etc. Some stuff are similar to modern editing like Shift+motion to select, F1 for help, F10 to activate the menu bar, etc. And all shortcut keys are displayed on the menu bar commands so it is easy to learn them (some of the more intricate editor shortcut keys are not displayed in the menus, but are mentioned in the help you get if you press F1 with an editor window active).

cmrdporcupine 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

and frankly including other emacs users, too.

Any non-trivial use of emacs ends up involving a pile of customizations.