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wffurr 20 hours ago

“dGPU” usually means “discrete GPU”. Do you mean “iGPU” for “integrated GPU” instead?

Strix Halo is also being marketed for gaming but the performance profile is all wrong for that. The CPU is too fast and the iGPU still not strong enough.

I am sure it’s amazing at matmul though.

chao- 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, I intended to use the term "discrete GPU" before using "dGPU" as a shorthand for that exact reason (in the second paragraph). I now see that I edited the first paragraph to use "dGPU" without first defining it as such.

I also agree that they aren't for gaming (something I know little about). My comment was with respect to compute workloads, but I never specified that. Apologies.

AmVess 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have one. Framework Desktop mainboard that I put into a larger ITX chassis and regular power supply.

It's fine for 1440p gaming. I don't use it for that, but it would not be a bother if that was all I had.

dismalaf 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what I've seen the gaming benchmarks are fantastic. Beats the mobile 5070 for some games and settings, or slightly behind on others. While being very far ahead of every other iGPU.

I have a laptop with an Nvidia GPU. Ruins battery life and makes it run very hot. I'd pay a lot for a powerful iGPU.

speed_spread 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

As a casual gamer I'm already okay with the RTX 3050 dGPU on my laptop. Reports put Strix Halo at RTX 4070 level which is massive for an iGPU and certainly allows for 2k single screen gaming. Hardcore gaming will always require a desktop with PCIe boards.

lostmsu 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Strix Halo is nowhere near RTX 4070 (desktop at least, not familiar with laptop GPUs).

speed_spread 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe there's been some selective optimization and careful marketing but to even be in that ballpark for some games now means that more is coming.

https://www.techspot.com/news/106835-amd-ryzen-strix-halo-la...

lostmsu 15 hours ago | parent [-]

This link is a terrible source. In one of the graphs 4060 is faster than 4070. This speaks to the quality of testing.

kimixa 14 hours ago | parent [-]

In some power constrained scenarios that sort of thing is often petty reproducible.

Especially if the different SKUs have different power budgets. Laptop GPU naming and performance is a bit of a mess, as in the example shown (the 4060 on the Asus TUF Gaming A16 has a limit of 140w GPU+CPU, while the 4070 on the Asus Proart PX13 has 115w GPU+CPU - and even that is a "custom" non-default mode with 95w being the actual out-of-the-box limit).

With wildly varying power profiles laptop graphics need to be compared by chassis (and the cooling/power supply that implies) as much as by GPU SKU.

lostmsu 13 hours ago | parent [-]

That just proves the point about the source, right?