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jpc0 21 hours ago

AES67 is the open standard, ravenna and dante are extensions/alterations of it (well dante preceded aes67 but can be run in aes67 compatibility) and none of them require FPGAs, they usually use FPGAs to keep latency very low but they work just fine with any network card that supports PTPv2 and in dante case it’s not even that strict.

Go grab the ravenna docs, it’s pretty close to the spec for AES67 with added details for how to communicate metadata. You will find it, SMPTE2110 and the likes is all built on-top of existing standards (RTP, PTP, amongst others), even AVB which has much stricter requirements regarding latency is the same. These aren’t complex proprietary standards, they are standards which just specifies restrictions and interactions between other standards.

What I’m getting at is the Klark Teknik and Behringer after then refusing to use these standards as their interconnect is the industry outlier, the only other example in this discussion which still has relevance is Allen and Heath and they now do actually support Dante stage boxes on their models.

Twinlan and the other examples were never the only options, Digico and soundcraft support madi by default, Yamaha effectively spurred dante into existence in the live industry. Their proprietary protocol are there to solve problems that cannot be solved with the standard interconnect, usually latency or channel count or both.

jdboyd 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> These aren’t complex proprietary standards,

They aren't proprietary, but they are complex standards, and sometimes somewhat incomplete. AES67, for instance, is somewhat crippled by not having a control plane (for that you need AES70, not well supported, or various NMOS standards). AVB requires special network switches.

Behringer doesn't really refuse to support standards. They offer Dante and MADI cards for their X32 and Wing mixers. They have AES50 built in as well. I think StageConnect and UltraNet are intended to be a cheaper/simpler/more limited alternative for people who don't need the full physical range and flexibility of Dante.