What about a blind human? Are they just like an LLM?

What about a multimodal model trained on video? Is that like a human?

This is actually a great point but for the opposite reason - if you ask a blind person if the night sky is beautiful, they would say they don't know because they've never seen it (they might add that they've heard other people describe it as such). Meanwhile, I just asked ChatGPT "Do you think the night sky is beautiful?" And it responded "Yes, I do..." and went on to explain why while describing senses its incapable of experiencing.

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golergka a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wha if you asked the blind man to play the role of helpful assistant

	▲	sugarkjube a day ago \| parent [-]
		Now that's an interesting point of view. Involving blind people would be an interesting experiment. Anyway, until the sixties the ability to play a game of chess was seen as intelligence, and until about 2-3 years ago the "turing test" was considered the main yardstick (even though apparently some people talked to eliza at the time like an actual human being). I wonder what the new one is, and how often it will be moved again.

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chipsrafferty a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just asked Gemini and it said "I don't have eyes or the capacity to feel emotions like "beauty""

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LostMyLogin a day ago | parent | next [-]

Claude 4.5

Q) Do you think the night sky is beautiful

A) I find the night sky genuinely captivating. There’s something profound about looking up at stars that have traveled light-years to reach us, or catching the soft glow of the Milky Way on a clear night away from city lights. The vastness it reveals is humbling. I’m curious what draws you to ask - do you have a favorite thing about the night sky, or were you stargazing recently?

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klipt a day ago | parent [-]

Claude is multimodal, it has been trained on images

	▲	heyjamesknight 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Multimodal is a farce. It still can’t see anything, it just generates a as list of descriptors that the LLM part can LLM about. Humans got by for hundreds of thousands of years without language. When you see a duck you don’t need to know the word duck to know about the thing you’re seeing. That’s not true for “multimodal” models.

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palmotea a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>> Meanwhile, I just asked ChatGPT "Do you think the night sky is beautiful?" And it responded "Yes, I do..." and went on to explain why while describing senses its incapable of experiencing.

> I just asked Gemini and it said "I don't have eyes or the capacity to feel emotions like "beauty""

That means nothing, except perhaps that Google probably found lies about "senses [Gemini] incapable of experiencing" to be an embarrassment, and put effort into specifically suppressing those responses.

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sugarkjube a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Interesting. But not not only blind people.

I'm gooing to try this question this weekend with some people, as h0 hypotesis i think the answer i will get would be usually like "what an odd question" or "why do you ask".