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rootusrootus a day ago

Trying to compare an EV to a smartphone is self-serving, you wanted to convince yourself that your already-made decision was the right one. Reality wouldn't be so kind.

gladiatr72 a day ago | parent [-]

No, it isn't. It doesn't have to be this way. The original Volt comes to mind. Electric-hybrid, somewhat affordable with the bonus that it wasn't remotely hackable. The non-electric bit was a 1-cylender motor that only kicked in when the battery was low. Oh, and don't forget its use of buttons and switches vs a dash-bolted touchscreen.

And, you know, there were these flip phones that worked pretty much everywhere that held a useful charge up to a couple weeks that you could use to call AAA in a pinch. They stood in quite handily in place of the integrated spyware present today.

To quote Corey Doctrow: Investors love the sound of a “software-based car” because they understand that a gadget that is connected to the cloud is ripe for rent-extraction, because with software comes a bundle of “IP rights” that let the company control its customers, critics and competitors:

A “software-based car” gets to mobilize the state to enforce its “IP,” which allows it to force its customers to use authorized mechanics (who can, in turn, be price-gouged for licensing and diagnostic tools). “IP” can be used to shut down manufacturers of third party parts. “IP” allows manufacturers to revoke features that came with your car and charge you a monthly subscription fee for them.

and then there are situations like: https://insideevs.com/news/723669/fisker-inc-bankruptcy-chap...

or the recent fiasco with e-Jeeps disabled by the side of the road by a freaking entertainment system update.

rootusrootus 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds like you have more of a problem with Tesla's software style than anything else to do with EVs. Most modern EVs that are not made by Tesla are just like the contemporary ICE equivalents (for better or worse). Computer integration into cars has been ongoing for the last 30 plus years.