▲ | theothertimcook 2 days ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They are definitely degrading. Complex driver aid/“safety” systems, outrageously complicated “infotainment” systems that are also used to interact with system functions, sealed/un-serviceable transmissions, exhaust gas filtration and recirculating systems, these are all additional points of failure that represent a degradation on modern ICE cars. These cars won’t be around 20 years after manufacture in the same way Toyota Camry and Corolla are. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | jlarocco a day ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Those complaints are really orthogonal to the EV vs ICE debate, though. Somebody could claim driver aids and infotainment EVs are "degrading" in EVs in the exact same way - in fact they're even more integrated in EVs. And although EVs don't have the same transmissions and exhaust gas systems, they have their own unique complexities and points of failure, like batteries and regenerative braking systems. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | Consultant32452 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I recently bought a fancy muscle car with all that crap integrated into the infotainment system. I explained to the sales guy that I WANTED to keep this car for the rest of my life but was concerned that wouldn't be possible. In 10 years it may literally be impossible to find a phone that will connect via the USB/bluetooth to the infotainment system. We may all be using something completely different. Not to mention, no one will be manufacturing replacements for that infotainment system if it ever craps out. You can go buy a 50 year old muscle car and upgrade the radio to something kind of modern. But that won't be possible with my car 50 years from now. It's too integrated. The sales guy had clearly never considered this issue before. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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