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sosodev 2 days ago

I think it's a shame that a 146 minute podcast released ~55 minutes ago has so much discussion. Everybody here is clearly just reacting to the title with their own biases.

I know it's against the guidelines to discuss the state of a thread, but I really wish we could have thoughtful conversations about the content of links instead of title reactions.

dang a day ago | parent | next [-]

It takes time for more reflective comments to appear, because reflection is a slower mental operation. Reflexive responses are much faster and tend to be generic and shallow. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...)

I believe this distinction is pretty fundamental to humans, so we're not likely to escape it, but the good news is that reflective comments do show up eventually if the article is substantive and the reflexive ones haven't ruined the thread. We also try to downweight the more reflexive subthreads.

More at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45625084.

Yossarrian22 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe they used AI to transcribe and summarize the podcast

markbao 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just as the core idea of a book can be (lossily) summarized in a few sentences, the core crux of an argument can be quite simple and not require wading though the whole discussion (the AGI discussion is only 30 minutes anyhow).

Granted, a bunch of commenters are probably doing what you’re saying.

mpalmer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Be fair; plenty of people transcribe and read podcasts, and/or summarize/excerpt them.

yoz-y a day ago | parent | next [-]

The idea that people would do this has never even crossed my mind. Not disputing that people do this, mind you. Technology is certainly there, but I also think that it’s very prone to taking ideas out of context.

j45 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Summaries are great, but can be surface.

The brain processes and has insights differently experiencing it at conversation speed.

We might get what the conversation was that others had, but it can miss the mark for the listening and inner processing that leads to it's own gifts.

It's not about one or the other for me, usually both.

jasonthorsness 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This one does have the full transcript underneath (wonderful feature). But it's a long read too so I think your assumption is correct :P.

meowface 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eh, Dwarkesh has to market the podcasts somehow. I think it's fine for him to use hooks like this and for HN threads to respond to the hooks. 99% of HN threads only ever reply to the headline and that's not changing anytime soon. This will likely cause many people (including myself) to watch the full podcast when we otherwise might not have.

The criticism that people are only replying to a tiny portion of the argument is still valid, but sometimes it's more fun to have an open-ended discussion rather than address what's in the actual article/video.

dang a day ago | parent [-]

99%? I have to stick up for HN here!

meowface a day ago | parent [-]

Ok, maybe not 99%. Probably at least 50% of comments in 70% of threads, though...

fragmede 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who listens to podcasts at 1x speed? That's unbearably slow!

Imnimo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The trouble is Karpathy already speaks at 1.5x speed.

ghaff 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I do. I'm really not a fan of sped-up audio in general. If I'm focused on speed I'd rather read/skim a transcript.

tauchunfall 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

there is a transcript, people can skim for interesting parts and read for 30 minutes and then comment.

edit: typo fix.

tootie 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Idk how this Dwarkesh Patel got so popular so fast. I'd never heard of him and he keeps popping up in my feeds.

jlhawn 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

gotta listen at 2x speed!

therealmarv 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

a very human reaction ;)